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Quote: WOW thank you so much for this info! interesting!

Quote: then theres the ONES that think even owning domestic animals is cruel....sooo....ya know

Quote: Deerman, lol you and theifpouter are reading us all wrong. We are saying that pulling for looks (on another creature) in our oppinons is cruel. But pulling feathers out of neccessity ie; broken blood feathers to stop bleeding, vent feathers to help breeding, facial feathers to help with...

Quote: awhh you didn't have to give your fan tail secret away I don't see anything wrong with that either, I mean sure it's for looks, BUUUUT show animals need to look their best to win to conform to the standards...and not to mention it's not making the bird look different I'm sure it's just...

Quote: Deerman, lol you and theifpouter are reading us all wrong. We are saying that pulling for looks (on another creature) in our oppinons is cruel. But pulling feathers out of neccessity ie; broken blood feathers to stop bleeding, vent feathers to help breeding, facial feathers to help with...

Quote: I am confused. Why do you think plucking feathers is cruel? Pigeon feathers can come out just be holding them. Plucking feathers is done for several reasons...plucking around the vent for improving fertility in loose feathered birds, plucking broken wing feathers in flying birds so they...

OMG...okay not interested in them now I would never want to do that to a bird....im with the OP, if it doesnt occur that way in the breedings themselves then nope not interested

WOW their wing pattern is awesome! *in love*