Lice and mites

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Mine have plenty of dust bathing areas, but they still get lice, and they got lice even when put DE all over their coop and in all of their dust bathing spots.

-Kathy
 
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casportpony said:
Mine have plenty of dust bathing areas, but they still get lice, and they got lice even when put DE all over their coop and in all of their dust bathing spots.

-Kathy
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Same situation here and I think that anyone who exposes their birds to areas visited by wild birds will eventually have an infestation of some sort of avian parasite that their chicken can't manage themselves but it does look to me like some are more/less prone to lice infestations as only 1 hen has/had them and she was in with the Roo and other hens for in all likelihood a few weeks before I noticed but no one else has them.

On a side note, the bottle of Carbaryl dusting powder I have says to re-apply in 4 weeks if necessary and after checking her last night I could not find a single living louse but their are still many attached egg bundles on her feather shafts. Is carbaryl effective in killing the eggs as well or will I have subsequent recurrences until I've beaten them all down prior to egg laying?
 
I'm not going to inhale DE, and won't expose my birds to it either. It's very minimally effective when dry, not if damp outside, and will also affect beneficials. If you think it's a good insect killer in your dry outdoor environment, why affect beneficial insects too? I check my chickens at night with the flashlight every week or so, and only treat indoors if mites or lice are found. Then I use permethrin spray; easy, effective, and approved, with no egg withdrawal. Mary
 
JayColli said:
casportpony said:
Mine have plenty of dust bathing areas, but they still get lice, and they got lice even when put DE all over their coop and in all of their dust bathing spots.


-Kathy
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Same situation here and I think that anyone who exposes their birds to areas visited by wild birds will eventually have an infestation of some sort of avian parasite that their chicken can't manage themselves but it does look to me like some are more/less prone to lice infestations as only 1 hen has/had them and she was in with the Roo and other hens for in all likelihood a few weeks before I noticed but no one else has them.

On a side note, the bottle of Carbaryl dusting powder I have says to re-apply in 4 weeks if necessary and after checking her last night I could not find a single living louse but their are still many attached egg bundles on her feather shafts. Is carbaryl effective in killing the eggs as well or will I have subsequent recurrences until I've beaten them all down prior to egg laying?
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I don't think any of the pesticides kill eggs, but I could be wrong. I just check every 2-3 weeks and re-treat as needed.

-Kathy
 
casportpony said:
Carbaryl is no longer labeled for use in poultry, livestock, and pets, but not because of residues.

-Kathy
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The last time I did that Google thing, Carbaryl (a.k.a.) Sevin was still allowed in the UK but Pyrethrim was verboten. The same thing may be true in Canada.

All it takes for ignorance to triumph over knowledge and science is for some true believer (like those who are addicted to DE) to slap themselves on the forehead and say "There ought to be a law." And like magic a new and often unnecessary law jumps out of the weeds.

Just saying.

Remember, your chickens are your chickens and if you don't sell (many) eggs use what ever anti mite and lice concoction you like. Otherwise you'll need to follow the USDA's orders.
 
chickengeorgeto said:
The last time I did that Google thing, Carbaryl (a.k.a.) Sevin was still allowed in the UK but Pyrethrim was verboten. The same thing may be true in Canada.

All it takes for ignorance to triumph over knowledge and science is for some true believer (like those who are addicted to DE) to slap themselves on the forehead and say "There ought to be a law." And like magic a new and often unnecessary law jumps out of the weeds.

Just saying.

Remember, your chickens are your chickens and if you don't sell (many) eggs use what ever anti mite and lice concoction you like. Otherwise you'll need to follow the USDA's orders.
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Both are legal in Canada and being used on poultry. I was just reading up on a commercial insecticide, brand name: "POUNCE", that contains 384g of Permetherin per liter and is diluted down to 125mL per 100L of water and sprayed on chickens with a 7 day withdrawl period.

Source: http://fmccrop.ca/isl/uploads/2016/01/ldAJP000.pdf

I'd prefer not to use anything on my birds but when it comes down to the wire and their health and comfort are on the line I have to place that above my own desire for eggs and meat if I'm not willing to ingest some level of residue, which depending on where you live, may or may not be deemed "harmful" by the powers that be.
 
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@chickengeorgeto, they changed it because too many people were dosing the food supply with it, and I don't know about you, but I don't like to eat things that might contain even a smidgen of a legal or illegal concoction that states right on the MSDS that it is a known carcinogen.

Carcinogen. Yeah. On my food. Sprinkle away but for me, no, I'm glad there is now a law, stupid as it is or not... yikes :p
 

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