PLANNED POULTRY GUARDING DOG

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BIG PICTURE WE CURRENTLY CONTEND WITH

We have all sorts of predators and leash laws not involved with dogs, coyotes or foxes.


Area with points of interest around property (green). Yellow circle marks where flocks maintained. Two coyote packs are denoted by black circles although their actual territories are much bigger than depicted. Orange squares indicate dogs not mine. Smaller square to MW indicates pit-bulls numbering ~ 6 while larger square depicts ~ 10 free-range dogs including multiple pitbulls, a single bull mastiff and several pitbull x bull mastiff crosses. Red circles depict chicken flocks owned by others. A sheep / goat herd is off to east. Purple square is where Scoob goes when off mission hanging with neighbor's birds and their beagle.




Close-up of property with boundaries in pink. Cockyards are red squares. Free-range American Dominique flock is green. Front porch flock is blue. Wind direction that causes problem shown with white arrow.


 
WE RAN OFF A THREAT

Just a bit ago a large male pitbull with a little mastiff mixed in came into yard while dogs where out in pasture. My wife noticed first so I hollered for Scoob and Lucy and they came running back to house, then they saw the interloper. Both set upon him immediately chewing at his haunches and shoulders as they put him off at a dead run back to where he came from. Then they came back checking his path thoroughly with both scent marking. Front porch flock occupies the affected area which does not have a perimeter fence. This dog and the female that occasionally comes up with him have interacted with the front porch flock to the east of my property without incident which is part due to my efforts to suppress their interest in the birds. They still need to stay out.
 
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE GERMAN POINTERS VERSATILITY


Scoob was making one of his runs through house when Trueman took his diaper off and pulled from it a "pooped" that seemed possible for him to pass. He seemed proud but I had say put that in the trash which he did after dropping it. Around impact site were little "poopedlets" that Scoob promptly consumed. A little coprophagy saved me some clean up time. Scoob then promptly went back out to resume patrolling with Lucy and Trueman's hiny is again as we say it, shiny.
 
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ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE GERMAN POINTERS VERSATILITY


Scoob was making one of his runs through house when Trueman took his diaper off and pulled from it a "pooped" that seemed possible for him to pass.  He seemed proud but I had say put that in the trash which he did after dropping it.  Around impact site were little "poopedlets" that Scoob promptly consumed.  A little coprophagy saved me some clean up time.  Scoob then promptly went back out to resume patrolling with Lucy and Trueman's hiny is again as we say it, shiny.
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I'm laughing so hard I'm crying!!! Love it!!!
 
centrarchid said:
WE RAN OFF A THREAT

Just a bit ago a large male pitbull with a little mastiff mixed in came into yard while dogs where out in pasture. My wife noticed first so I hollered for Scoob and Lucy and they came running back to house, then they saw the interloper. Both set upon him immediately chewing at his haunches and shoulders as they put him off at a dead run back to where he came from. Then they came back checking his path thoroughly with both scent marking. Front porch flock occupies the affected area which does not have a perimeter fence. This dog and the female that occasionally comes up with him have interacted with the front porch flock to the east of my property without incident which is part due to my efforts to suppress their interest in the birds. They still need to stay out.
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yes I did not even know we had loose roaming dogs at night til our dogs would go out and engage with them... Now that our fencing is complete problem is solved no more runins but glad to have the Homestead dogs patrolling (our giant schnauzer does a fine job along with the more traditional Bernese Mt dog, and Pyr- anatolian pup)...
Sad about your neighbors dogs LGDs not really get fed properly.... all dogs need to be properly maintained and you dont have to starve a LGD for it to do its job.... some of that LGD thinking is so archaic... and harsh...
 
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yes I did not even know we had loose roaming dogs at night til our dogs would go out and engage with them... Now that our fencing is complete problem is solved no more runins but glad to have the Homestead dogs patrolling (our giant schnauzer does a fine job along with the more traditional Bernese Mt dog, and Pyr- anatolian pup)...
Sad about your neighbors dogs LGDs not really get fed properly.... all dogs need to be properly maintained and you dont have to starve a LGD for it to do its job.... some of that LGD thinking is so archaic... and harsh...
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The neighbor with the pitbulls to south does not have LGD's in breed or function. To my knowledge they are simply a very formidable pack of pets. That neighbors dogs are they primary reason I had to set up two perimeters of fencing around core pen areas. When the entire group of ten comes up, even a group of six LGD's like GP's would have serious problems and I can not afford to feed so many dogs. I am having to cheat and actually train those dogs around chickens with my front porch flock being put to risk in process. Soon I will try to give owners of those dogs some gamefowl to get him vested in dogs not going after poultry. Remaining risk is his dogs simply going after mine. I can shoot but that will make for some long-term fun. This guy has a reputation for being a bit aggressive.
 
Yes neighbor feuds can be dangerous and troublesome.... I think giving him some birds is a fine idea.... if you have a gun you can harvest goat meat and bones for your dogs (long story but... no guns here although I was thinking of acquiring a BB gun to shoot bunnies with)...Especially Kikos they have a fine rep for throwing triplets... and meaty as well....
 
I am really enjoying your posts. I live in the middle of my small town and keep only hens so I don't disturb neighbors with a crowing rooster. I was given a GP several years ago because she killed chickens. Her idiot owners turned her loose on 3 acres covered with free range chickens with no supervision. They also gave her raw eggs for a treat. They actually taught her to be an egg sucking dog. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. It took me two years, but I completely trust her 100% with the girls. They have a coop and predator proof run, but sometimes I let them out in the yard. Paris (GP) guards them. She even taught our black Lab/Great Dane to guard, but he did have one incident of "playing" with a chicken for which he was impressed upon with rolled up newspaper to not do that again, and he hasn't. Both dogs are 100% trustworthy.

Even though we are in town, there are opossums, raccoons, dogs, hawks, feral cats (lady next door feeds them) and the occasional snake. I had the hens out one afternoon when a hawk flew in low, about 12 feet. The girls scattered and Paris leaped in the air barking and snapping her jaws. The hawk landed in a tree in the neighbors yard and Paris went nuts barking and rushing the fence. Hawk flew away. The hawks you talk about that are migrating--come down here. LOL

Your farm and set up for your chickens is admirable. You are living with nature instead of against it, with the help of your dogs. Too bad about your aggressive neighbor with all the pits and mastiffs. Usually it is the idiot aggressive type that likes to surround themselves with big, bad dogs. I like big dogs too but confined on my property and not being a nuisance to anyone else. I hope you can resolve your issues.

My Paris.

http://www.backyardherds.com/thread...heep-goats-or-chase-bears-hawk-post-26.23771/
 
MY HELPER IN TRAINING STARTING TO FILL MY SHOES


When the dogs get worked when we are all home, the little man is starting to develop an interest in participating. He how runs to get the big Maglite and says "us go, us go" as he turns it on. He clearly wants to go outside but getting him dressed for temperature down in the teens takes to long. When go outside without him he then yells "comm bock, comm bock". Soon he will be able to go out and help me do the chores by holding the light. He still likes to hold beam to right of where I think it needs to be.


 
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