My "First Birds" Help Thread

baunlee

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Hey everyone I have a few questions about the birds I just got from some BYC members. Recently one of my chicks died and it looked like as it died blood was gushing out of it's anus.

I immediately separated the remaining birds (at midnight so great timing). I put the visibly ill birds separate from the "unsure" status birds. Those birds did not get moved until I saw them poop (if it was good looking they were moved into a container with other normal pooping birds). The birds who had blood in their stool were kept in that container. So altogether I had a few tubs ranking: Good (fine poops/alert etc) Better (blood in stool but more alert than 'worse' birds) Worse birds with a slim chance

I was wondering if this was a good way to handle a crisis situation in the future.

Anyways back to my current predicament-

I thought that the chicks had coccidiosis after doing some reading so today I went to the store and bought corid 20% and gave 1/2 tsp to a gallon of water. They seem to be doing a little better.

Questions:

-How is coccidiosis different than mareks?
-How hot should I be keeping ill chicks (it's pretty hot/humid weather so I don't want them to be too hot)
- How can I tell coccidiosis apart from another disease I have been reading about, called Necrotic enteritis
-I bought save a chick electrolytes and probiotic- should I administer at this time or hold off until course of coccidoisis treatment is complete?
- Is 5 days enough time to give them the medicine?



I'm kind of surprised my birds got sick. I keep their cage really clean and water with a little ACV as well. It would make sense that they got this illness from when I take them outside but they are still only a few weeks old.

Should I have been feeding them medicated feed or is this just personal preference to what people feed chicks? Since they might already have this illness would there be any point to switching to medicated feed?


Sorry for all the questions but these are my first chicks. We all love them and it would be really upsetting if they didn't make improvements so I just want to make sure I handled things well but also if there is anything you think I should have done different. Thanks in advance for your help we are all really worried about the chicks
 
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Hi,
welcome-byc.gif

I wish it was under happier circumstances.
We have a special thread just for question and challenges like yours. Take this over there. Lots of experienced folk there who have seen lots of things:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/f/10/emergencies-diseases-injuries-and-cures
warm wishes for best success with your birds.
One thing I will suggest are the products below. They don't need to be digested and will provide your chicks with emergency nutritional supplementation while they are working to get well. I have used these products on my birds and collies for over a decade. Wrote this earlier today to a lady with a challenged chick :
Goal:
We are trying to restart the efficiency of the chick's digestive tract... while giving it the nutrition it needs...
to keep it's metabolism from collapsing under the strain... of trying to maintain equilibrium without proper nutrition.


The chick is too weak to assimilate any of the helps you are giving it. Go to your local tractor supply or feed store and get a small bottle of either Pet Nutri-Drops or Poultry Nutri-Drench. These products are made by specialist Bovidr Labs. They do not need to be digested. They mainline directly into the bloodstream 50% uptake in 30 minutes. measurable in the bloodstream in 10-15 minutes. 99% uptake available in the solution. It is very concentrated. Just one drop by mouth every 8-10 hours as needed. Add 2cc's per gallon to their water for the 1st 2 weeks to get them off to a strong start. Use these usage and dosage instructions for either product. they are interchangeable. the 4 oz. bottle is plenty for your needs It comes with a dropper in the lid. Do not feed this chick probiotics right now. The mission is to use these products to give the chick energy to try and live. Once that is accomplished you can think about food. The chick can live on this for several days. Keep water handy. 2 of them one regular and one with the drop/drench in it.
Here's a fuller explanation: read post one:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/746509/how-to-deal-with-travel-stress-in-baby-chicks

Note: 2cc's per gallon is a maintenance dose. 4cc's per gallon is the stress dose for severely stressed birds like yours. Now if the chicks don't like the taste of the 4cc's solution, you can back it down to 2cc's and still get good results. This is per a conversation I had with the science techs at Bovidr Labs.
Warm Regards,
Karen in western PA
 
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I'd recommend taking fresh chilled dead or really sick/dying chicks to either your state vet lab or a local (hopefully) poultry veterinarian for a necropsy. You can also have a fecal sample tested for parasites. This sounds really bad; we can only guess, you need answers! Don't assume that it's not something catching like Salmonella; wash up! I hope things improve for you. Mary
 

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