My marans hens are bullies to the hens under them in the pecking order, and not very reliable layers (and only one lays dark), they love to be broody. When they do lay though the eggs are in between large and XL.
I know the candling thing sucks, I’ve hatched out a couple of the dark ones. I couldn’t see in them after day 5, thought they were dead and almost tossed them but I kept them in the incubator..good thing I did lol! Luckily now that we have our Australorp hens laying we are only setting those for ourselves to hatch out. While we offer a “barnyard mix” to people they have said they just throw them in the incubator and see if they hatch or not.
I found if I used an emery cloth to gently remove a layer of dark colored tinting from each egg, I could get a better candle....similar to removing the first green blush from a Cayuga duck egg.
@KDOGG331 said...
"Thank you! This is very very helpful!! Thinking maybe I should add Wyandottes and Buckeyes and remove some of the other birds haha but are your birds hatchery or breeder birds? Do you think that makes a difference in the personality? Do you think a hatchery Wyandotte would be meaner?"
My first Columbian Wyandottes were from a breeder 7 years ago. He got his from a breeder 10 years earlier and had raised them. Those had been closed flocks. Along the way I brought in the Blues and Blacks along with Silver Laced chicks purchased from Atwood's. They get their birds from Ideal and McMurray hatchery. I sold the Silver Laced and I bought Whites from a quality breeder. I have raised all my Wyandotte since.
The Buckeyes were from a show breed line. My girls did lay fewer eggs in winter. The hens were great mothers.
Not sure if the attitude of hatchery chicks is vastly different from breeder lines, but I know size and vigor can be. Of course, hand-raised chicks are always more gentle.
My experience has been that breeder lines go thru a rigorous selection process before the birds reach adult stage breeding. Often a breeder will wait to put hens in a breed pen until they reach a specific age and weight...thus getting better quality eggs for hatching stronger chicks.
Each year I hatch between 150 to 200 Columbian Wyandotte chicks and raise them to 6 months. As they grow, I cull out any birds that are not to standard and that have defects in attitude, growth, or vigor.
At 6 months I separate the "best" 30 to 40 to watch/grow to 9 months for possible breeders and the rest go to butcher/fattening pens or to a pullet pen to grow out for the layer pen.
At 9 months, I judge the "best" again looking for specific traits for the breed standard that I want for my breeder pens. I held out 15 in 2018 to continue maturing to breeding age. The pullets that did not make this selection were moved to the layer flock and the roosters went to freezer camp.
On the other hand, hatchery birds are raised to laying age and monitored for egg size to reach target performance size for hatching. Some hatcheries separate roosters from hens during the growth process, some don't. Eggs are then collected for hatching since that is where the hatchery makes money. I don't know their selection process for selling birds other than chicks.
If you are buying older birds from a hatchery instead of chicks I would recommend confirming there is a full guarantee for replacement or refund for those older birds.
AND quarantine the new birds separate from your home flock for a full 30 days!