➡I accidentally bought Balut eggs: 2 live ducks! Now a Chat Thread!

[jwyles]

Thank you! TBH I'm not mad at the color or the situation any more as I've given up on my Dream flock of rainbow layers. I really wanted pink eggs, even started a thread on here asking who'd gotten them and what breeds laid them. Just to get an idea if one breed was more prominent than others and to see pics of what everyone was calling pink. I just hated that I FINALLY got an OE chick and an F2 at that, and her eggs STILL weren't Olive!

Or even dark for that matter.

 

[debid]

Thank you! TBH I'm not mad at the color or the situation any more as I've given up on my Dream flock of rainbow layers. I really wanted pink eggs, even started a thread on here asking who'd gotten them and what breeds laid them. Just to get an idea if one breed was more prominent than others and to see pics of what everyone was calling pink. I just hated that I FINALLY got an OE chick and an F2 at that, and her eggs STILL weren't Olive!

TBH, I think F1 is a better bet than F2. In theory, F1 means they've crossed a bird with two copies of the blue shell gene with one that's from a line that lays dark brown. Subsequent generations are goingto be hit and miss as only a single copy of the blue shell is required to express and a bird with only one copy has but a 50% chance of passing it along.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Oh and also I told my dad to be careful pulling them out when he was helping me cause they were tangled with some other plants too and he ended up stripping the leaves off my eggplants!

Which, btw, I had assumed were dead because the tomatoes had completely grown over/on top of them, but by some miracle they were NOT dead and were producing even. Well now they probably will be if they weren’t before after being stripped.

Hopefully they come back.

There was one on the edge that wasn’t completely covered that’s doing alright and one that wasn’t completely stripped so hopefully it will be fine.

 

[jwyles]

TBH, I think F1 is a better bet than F2. In theory, F1 means they've crossed a bird with two copies of the blue shell gene with one that's from a line that lays dark brown. Subsequent generations are goingto be hit and miss as only a single copy of the blue shell is required to express and a bird with only one copy has but a 50% chance of passing it along.

Ive always been told F2 is the best bet for the darkest olive color. I do think the probability goes down, but still had my hopes up. I was thinking that if I didn't get an olive egg I'd at least get something a little darker.

 

[jwyles]

Oh and also I told my dad to be careful pulling them out when he was helping me cause they were tangled with some other plants too and he ended up stripping the leaves off my eggplants!

Which, btw, I had assumed were dead because the tomatoes had completely grown over/on top of them, but by some miracle they were NOT dead and were producing even. Well now they probably will be if they weren’t before after being stripped.

Hopefully they come back.

There was one on the edge that wasn’t completely covered that’s doing alright and one that wasn’t completely stripped so hopefully it will be fine.

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Wow kdogg, that's disappointing. That's a lot of work ruined. I'm sorry.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Oh and here is what it looked like before. Put in a spoiler cause I know most people probably don’t wanna see this disaster. kinda hard to see anyway cause it’s so washed out harder to distinguish plants than it is in person but hopefully you get the idea. Everything falling over and taking over everything else etc. even the cucumbers were growing into the tomatoes and vice versa. Hopefully now it will be better.

Sorry if it’s out of order or if there’s any repeated pictures haha

But yeah. Still got a lot more work to do but I think it looks a little better at least.

Spoiler: Garden

 

[ShrekDawg]

Wow kdogg, that's disappointing. That's a lot of work ruined. I'm sorry.

Thanks. It’s alright. Tbh it really wasn’t that much work because I’ve been awful at neglecting the garden this year. it’s my fault for letting the tomatoes grow over them to begin with. I should have caged them or pulled them right away. Or not planted the eggplants there to begin with. I had a feeling they might get grown over eventually. But I didn’t do anything about it

Tbh I actually thought they would have been completely dead by now so I’m just amazed they’re even still alive haha and hopefully they come back but if not it’s okay. I have another huge eggplant plant that’s thriving but it’s a different kind and I bought it as a pretty big plant.

These ones I started from seed and they’re good quality ones from Seed Savers Exchange, Diamond Eggplant, and I think they’re organic, so it’s a bit disappointing since they’re a little expensive/the good kind, but at the same time, I was lazy and didn’t protect them to begin with.

I’m hoping they will come back but if not it’s not a huge deal. I actually might dig some out and bring them inside at the end of the season if they stay alive/come back. I still have seeds left I think so maybe next year I can grow more or order more. I’m hoping with care they will come back. Of course now they have to focus on growing all new leaves and may not produce any fruit before winter but if not, oh well, lesson learned haha

I do wish he had been a little more careful though. I thought he was gonna rip out some of my good tomatoes too that were planted near there, in the back, cause he kept just ripping and going super fast! Even when I said wait or be careful, RIP!

He also mowed over my cucumber plant earlier today too

And put a tomato vine on the chicken run when I said not to (thought I remembered reading about the leaves being bad). Had to rip it off later when I Googled and confirmed.

He never listens to anything or anyone anyway so I’m not really sure what I expected

Anyway, the cucumber is thankfully fine. But he mowed off part of the end. Granted, it was growing pretty far into the grass, gotta do something with it, but still. He claims “it was only a little bit on the end” and “it was an accident. I was trying to mow too close” but I’m like... why would you even mow anywhere near the garden anyway!? The area there is pretty narrow too because of the deck too so between the garden and deck is pretty narrow. Not too too narrow but the section he mowed gets narrower. Anyway, there was enough room despite it being narrow for him to completely avoid the garden altogether.... I am lucky he did not destroy more though. He could have mowed the entire vine off like he did last year with some pumpkins that were “killing the grass”...... Men.

 

[ShrekDawg]

He has also mowed or driven too close to some of my moms plants and/or trees too and/or ripped stuff out too. Think this might be a male thing though.

 

[debid]

Ive always been told F2 is the best bet for the darkest olive color. I do think the probability goes down, but still had my hopes up. I was thinking that if I didn't get an olive egg I'd at least get something a little darker.

They get a darker olive by backcrossing their F1s to their dark egg bird. They then get about 50/50 darker olive/dark brown. Obviously, that requires that the dark egg genes were there to begin with but this is how it's supposed to go and what a lot of those working on olive strive for.

If, OTOH, you breed F1 to F1, that creates F2s. There's naturally going to be more variability there since you're mixing already mixed birds.

 

[jwyles]

They get a darker olive by backcrossing their F1s to their dark egg bird. They then get about 50/50 darker olive/dark brown. Obviously, that requires that the dark egg genes were there to begin with but this is how it's supposed to go and what a lot of those working on olive strive for.

If, OTOH, you breed F1 to F1, that creates F2s. There's naturally going to be more variability there since you're mixing already mixed birds.

Gotcha! Well that explains my misconception and maybe some confusion on the parts of others. I have actually wondered this before and somewhere had read info that lead me to settle on the wrong answer. I was thinking an f2 meant the f1 was crossed back to a dark egg layer OR Olive egger. So an OE crossed back to a dark egg layer is still considered an f1?