16 week old Araucanas, both cockerels?

[TheAngryEagleKiwi]

Like the title says, my mom has 2 Araucanas that hatched around the 30-31 March and while we're pretty much certain one of them is a cockerel, we're not as sure on the other one.

The one most likely a cockerel:



Suspected cockerel, but with slight hope of pullet:


Looking forward to hear your replies and thanks before hand!

 

[TheOddOneOut]

I don’t believe those are Arucanas. But they do appear male.

 

[TheAngryEagleKiwi]

I don’t believe those are Arucanas. But they do appear male.

Sorry for slow reply, I forgot about this thread.

Anyway, thank you for your answer and it is as we thought then

I thought they atleast somewhat followed the standard for Araucanas? Lack of tailfeathers, a beard (and I think I saw on the pictures of the parents, atleast one possible parent with tufts, which didn't seem to be passed down to these two.)

Atleast that seems to be the standard in my country, if I remember correctly, but I could be wrong, though. (Haven't gone too into depth, since we have a mixed group anyway.)

And sorry before hand if my english is off. It's warm today and I recently got home from work, so I'm a bit tired and can't really be bothered to think clearly, haha

 

[JedJackson]

I think they are both pullets. Some full body photos from the side and of the backs/shoulders would help to see if there is any male specific feathering present.

 

[TheAngryEagleKiwi]

I think they are both pullets. Some full body photos from the side and of the backs/shoulders would help to see if there is any male specific feathering present.

Oh, I hope you're right then!

I only have this, were I tried to show the hackles of one of them (I hope that's the right name), but I'm not sure if it's clear enough to tell anything and that's why I didn't upload it at first.


I'm going to my parent's house tomorrow, I'll see if I can get better pictures then.

 

[TheOddOneOut]

Sorry for slow reply, I forgot about this thread.

Anyway, thank you for your answer and it is as we thought then

I thought they atleast somewhat followed the standard for Araucanas? Lack of tailfeathers, a beard (and I think I saw on the pictures of the parents, atleast one possible parent with tufts, which didn't seem to be passed down to these two.)

Atleast that seems to be the standard in my country, if I remember correctly, but I could be wrong, though. (Haven't gone too into depth, since we have a mixed group anyway.)

And sorry before hand if my english is off. It's warm today and I recently got home from work, so I'm a bit tired and can't really be bothered to think clearly, haha

Araucanas don’t have muffs or beards

 

[TheOddOneOut]

There’s UK Araucanas and then the US version. Your birds fit neither standard, so I’d hesitate to call them purebred.

 

[TheAngryEagleKiwi]

Araucanas don’t have muffs or beards

There’s UK Araucanas and then the US version. Your birds fit neither standard, so I’d hesitate to call them purebred.

Fair enough

Not that it matters in this case, but always good to know. In case me or my mom try look for pure Araucanas in the future.

 

[JedJackson]

Oh, I hope you're right then!

I only have this, were I tried to show the hackles of one of them (I hope that's the right name), but I'm not sure if it's clear enough to tell anything and that's why I didn't upload it at first.
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I'm going to my parent's house tomorrow, I'll see if I can get better pictures then.

I'm not seeing male feathering. I think they are pullets. At 16 weeks they would have male feathering if they were cockerels, and very likely they would be crowing.

 

[TheAngryEagleKiwi]

I'm not seeing male feathering. I think they are pullets. At 16 weeks they would have male feathering if they were cockerels, and very likely they would be crowing.

I haven't heard any crowing yet nor does it seem like my mom have either.
Then again, none of the confirmed or almost certainly confirmed cockerels (silkies, Maran mixes and a purebred Maran) in the group seems to crowing either or maybe I just haven't heard them yet.
Could also be the older roosters holding them back.

I was kinda unsure if the feathers were pointy or not, but now that you mention it, I don't think I've seen any overly long hackle or saddle feathers on these two yet.
I'm gonna take a closer look at them tomorrow and hopefully snap some better pictures.