23 weeks, bloody stool

[coach723]

Use the severe dosing. Always.

 

[Eggcessive]

X2. There is not a reason to ever use anything but the severe or maximum dosage

 

[Heres2U_MrsR]

X2. There is not a reason to ever use anything but the severe or maximum dosage

I treated at the severe direct dose and have kept her separated from the rest of my flock. We are now two days past her last day of the first round of treatment. Her color is good, but she’s refusing water and food and has dropped weight quickly. She just seems to have no interest in anything. I know she’s missing being with the others, but I’m assuming that’s it’s not safe to re-integrate her. I treated them with severe outbreak via water. I’m not seeing signs from the others, I’m poop scooping daily, have put down DE, and we completely pulled out all of the shavings/bark/roosts, etc. We are planning on another thorough cleaning and new shavings/bark for a third time. Now what? I feel like I’m missing something. Meanwhile, we have six chicks that are quarantined elsewhere. This has been hard work to separate everyone, and trying to keep the one girly alive.
*I don’t know if it’s helpful, but we’ve dubbed this girl “Special”. She’s always seemed a bit off. She’s Polish/Appenzeller X and despite constant trimming of her crest, she doesn’t seem to see well, her neck is kind of crooked, she randomly “shuts down” (falls asleep) while free ranging, and has never eaten much. I’ve wondered if she’s borderline FTT?

 

[coach723]

It's not necessary to separate since you are treating/have treated them all. Unless she is at risk of being attacked or injured by the others. Just to clarify, you treated her with the medicated water and direct oral dose? The twisted neck sounds like wry neck, often caused by a vitamin E deficiency. If she's not eating well, or having issues with digestion/absorption then that could be the cause. Treatment would be 400 iu daily of vitamin E and a bit of cooked egg, sunflower seeds, or tuna for a bit of selenium (helps with the uptake of the E). Link below with more info on wry neck. It can also be disease based or from a head injury, and polish are more prone to head injury due to the vaulted skull. Sometimes coccidiosis can do enough damage to the digestive tract that another infection can take hold (necrotic enteritis). Another link below with info on that. Was she normal before the coccidiosis, or has she always been less vigorous than the others? Are the droppings normal looking now, after treatment?
https://www.raising-happy-chickens.com/wry-neck.html
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/poultry/necrotic-enteritis/overview-of-necrotic-enteritis-in-poultry
https://poultrykeeper.com/blog/diseases-common-to-polands/

 

[Heres2U_MrsR]

It's not necessary to separate since you are treating/have treated them all. Unless she is at risk of being attacked or injured by the others. Just to clarify, you treated her with the medicated water and direct oral dose? The twisted neck sounds like wry neck, often caused by a vitamin E deficiency. If she's not eating well, or having issues with digestion/absorption then that could be the cause. Treatment would be 400 iu daily of vitamin E and a bit of cooked egg, sunflower seeds, or tuna for a bit of selenium (helps with the uptake of the E). Link below with more info on wry neck. It can also be disease based or from a head injury, and polish are more prone to head injury due to the vaulted skull. Sometimes coccidiosis can do enough damage to the digestive tract that another infection can take hold (necrotic enteritis). Another link below with info on that. Was she normal before the coccidiosis, or has she always been less vigorous than the others? Are the droppings normal looking now, after treatment?
https://www.raising-happy-chickens.com/wry-neck.html
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/poultry/necrotic-enteritis/overview-of-necrotic-enteritis-in-poultry
https://poultrykeeper.com/blog/diseases-common-to-polands/

Oops! I didn’t state that well. I treated her with direct oral dose only, but the rest of the flock was treated in their water. Will I be over-doing it to put her in with them and she gets some through the water source?

She was less vigorous from the start and I suspect she flew into something as a wee little thing.

Droppings...watery with no sign of blood. I have seen them trending toward normal, but I think she has eaten so little. Maybe her intake isn’t substantial enough yet? I expected her to be on the upswing by now. Too soon? I’m syringe feeding her until she picks up on her own.

 

[Heres2U_MrsR]

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It's not necessary to separate since you are treating/have treated them all. Unless she is at risk of being attacked or injured by the others. Just to clarify, you treated her with the medicated water and direct oral dose? The twisted neck sounds like wry neck, often caused by a vitamin E deficiency. If she's not eating well, or having issues with digestion/absorption then that could be the cause. Treatment would be 400 iu daily of vitamin E and a bit of cooked egg, sunflower seeds, or tuna for a bit of selenium (helps with the uptake of the E). Link below with more info on wry neck. It can also be disease based or from a head injury, and polish are more prone to head injury due to the vaulted skull. Sometimes coccidiosis can do enough damage to the digestive tract that another infection can take hold (necrotic enteritis). Another link below with info on that. Was she normal before the coccidiosis, or has she always been less vigorous than the others? Are the droppings normal looking now, after treatment?
https://www.raising-happy-chickens.com/wry-neck.html
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/poultry/necrotic-enteritis/overview-of-necrotic-enteritis-in-poultry
https://poultrykeeper.com/blog/diseases-common-to-polands/

Well, I just pilfered through the shavings she’s on and I do some very normal droppings. Thanks so much for the reading resources!

 

[coach723]

If you only gave an oral dose then she may not have gotten enough medication. I would treat her with the medicated water again for 5 -7 days, and give her the oral dose as well. It still might be a good idea to get the sulfa drug on the way, so you have it if needed.
If she had a head injury early on, then she may have neurological issues from that, but I would treat for the coccidiosis, and once that is complete do the vitamin E and see if it helps.