3 died at about lock down What Happened? Pictures included

[GhostRider65]

Well my 8 eggs are done that I set on March 5th, got 5 cute fuzzy butts, and had 3 quit close to lock down....... I opened them this morning to see what could have happened,
well 1 had a severe deformity of the beak, so I know why it didn't make it, It could nto have pipped if it tried forever..
The other 2 looked perfectly normal, fully formed, just dead. Someone on the cheese head thread mentioned internal pip, Please can someone explain that term to me and what to look for in the future, this was my first hatch........... here are the pictures if they help anyone give me some answers, I'm quite upset about the 2 perfect chicks that did not make it........................ Kim



and 1 picture to make everyone stop crying of the 5 that made it..............

 

[OldChurchEggery1]

Sometimes you just never know. They may have gotten through the internal membrane to the air cell (internal pip) and there wasn't enough air space there to keep them going. If you had 5/7 non-deformed chicks hatch, that tells you there's not something wrong with your incubator settings. From the pictures you posted, the chicks didn't absorb their yolk sacs, which tells me they died at days 19 and/or 20. They could have some internal deformity that prevented hatch as well. Were the eggs shipped or from your own flock?

 

[GhostRider65]

My own flock, they were eggs from my pea combs, x my EE rooster, though of those hens 1 is his sister, and I think that wasn't even it because 2 dark chicks died plus 1 light and I have 2 light and 3 dark that made it, almost identical to the ones who didn't. So if they were say all fileens eggs that died I would think too much inbreeding, but they were not, 1 that died was I think from my BO, set by accident thinking it was my SLW's egg.......so
I'm just upset because I hate loosing any of my critters, especially hard for me is the very young, or very old............. and these babies seemed so perfect I half expected them to chirp after I got them out of the shells. TY Kim

 

[bobbi-j]

It's hard to say what could have happened. Honestly, 5 out of 8 eggs is a good hatch! Enjoy them.

 

[psittacinekane]

I'm going to throw my hat into the ring here, because I've just experienced the same failures, with almost identical circumstances.

On eggtopsy, I discovered my fully-formed chicks had never pipped through their internal membranes, which looks to be the case here, right?

After phoning around today, and reading everything I could get my hands on, I've come to the conclusion that, even though my chickens free-range for 7 hours a day on horse pasture, and are supplemented with scratch grain and kitchen veggie left-overs, bread, pizza crusts, cakes, etc. etc. I think they *might* be deficient in nutrients.

Could this be your case as well? What are you feeding them? I've been recommended a good Egg-Maker that I purchased today. Hopefully it makes a difference, because I've just tried and exhausted every other avenue I can dream up.

Sorry this happened to you.

 

[GhostRider65]

It is entirely possible and most likely probable , I have read many articles on the food we feed our chickens and ourselves, and my conclusion has been it is deficient in many things due to over processing, just as our food is over processed, or chemically additived to death, ect.......
but little choice do we have because most companies are in the money market, and could really care less about the real nutritional values of their products, there philocify is money talks and you walk.....as long as your filling my pocket I can pay off the FDA to sell whatever garbage I see fit to you and your animals............ ggggrrrrrrrrr
Anyway I do the best I can I feed, my own organically grown, seeds, berries, vegetables, fruits, and eggs, plus they get a layer mash locally from the best mill near here, and Prince layer, they get a bit of corn and Boss everyday, and free range every afternoon, though I have not started the free range yet this season because, I have some little buggy problem from our wild birds( ,Northern fowl mites) so the girls have been locked up in the large run........until I exterminate them.
Last year I grew them Kale, cabbage, Fowtail millet, Amaranth, Parsley, lettuces spinach, tomatoes, squash, pumpkins, beets, carrots, beans, rutabaga, corn. all of which I still have either fresh frozen or canned, and they get pea's as well once a week along with there eggs and milk Kefir, ACV and baby whole food vitamins..and DE.......... and after all that I have an egg eater once in a while............so you tell me what should I add or get to fix it.the deficiency ?