4 1/2 week old Silkie - PLEASE HELP!!! Treating for Cocci.

[DaddyBird]

We decided it was too late for the preventative when we figured our what was the likely culprit. We are are by no means experts but have some working knowledge so we researched as best we could in the hours between diagnosis and farm store opening at 7:30 AM with me getting there before the manager. From what we read, Corid kills all 11 strains (I believe that is correct- don't quote me) that affect chickens while Sulmet gets the 5 or 6 most prevalent (again- off of late night memory) That is why we chose it. It is actually not packaged for chickens, rather cttle and hogs primarily so we had to do some researching on the dosage as well. By the symptoms and actions of the birds, we didn't have time for trial and error so we went for the weapon of mass cocci destruction. =)

We still have 1 or 2 that haven't fully rebounded. They still have very loose poops so we may give them 1 or 2 more days on the Corid. (we read 5-7 days and today was 5). I picked up some probiotics and some vitamin/electrolyte solution today. I'll get them started on it the minute we stop the Corid. Thanks for the info. Hopefully we are OK for a while.

 

[casportpony]

Sulmet gets four:
In Chickens - Eimeria tenella, Eimeria necatrix
In Turkeys - Eimeria meleagrimitis, Eimeria adenoeides

Sulmet® Drinking Water Solution​

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Fort Dodge

SULFAMETHAZINE SODIUM 12.5%
Drinking Water Solution
Antibacterial
For Animal Use Only
INDICATIONS
For control and treatment of the following diseases when caused by one or more of the following pathogenic organisms susceptible to sulfamethazine.
FOR THE TREATMENT OF:
Cattle: Bacterial Pneumonia and Bovine Respiratory Disease Complex (Shipping Fever Complex) (Pasteurella spp.)
Colibacillosis (Bacterial Scours) (Escherichia coli)
Necrotic Pododermatitis (Foot Rot) (Fusobacterium necrophorum)
Calf Diphtheria (Fusobacterium necrophorum)
Acute Metritis (Streptococcus spp.)
Beef Cattle: Acute Mastitis (Streptococcus spp.)
Swine: Porcine Colibacillosis (Bacterial Scours) (Escherichia coli)
Bacterial Pneumonia (Pasteurella spp.)
FOR THE CONTROL OF:
Chickens: Infectious Coryza (Haemophilus gallinarum)
Coccidiosis (Eimeria tenella, Eimeria necatrix)
Acute Fowl Cholera (Pasteurella multocida)
Pullorum Disease (Salmonella pullorum)
Turkeys: Coccidiosis (Eimeria meleagrimitis, Eimeria adenoeides)
CONVENIENT ONCE-A-DAY DOSAGE IN DRINKING WATER
Prepare Fresh Solutions Daily
Store at controlled room temperature 15° to 30°C (59° to 86°F).
FOR ORAL USE IN DOMESTIC ANIMALS AND POULTRY
NOT STERILIZED
DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION
DOSAGE: CATTLE, CALVES AND SWINE
1st Day: 6 tablespoons (3 fl oz) for each 100 lb body weight, providing approximately 112.5 mg/lb (247.5 mg/kg) body weight.
2nd, 3rd, and 4th Days: 3 tablespoons (1½ fl oz) for each 100 lb body weight, providing approximately 56.25 mg/lb (123.75 mg/kg) body weight.
DOSAGE: POULTRY
Add 2 tablespoons (1 fl oz) to each gallon of drinking water, or the contents of this container to 16 gallons. Following administration directions below, this will provide a recommended dose of approximately 61 to 89 mg/lb/day (134 to 196 mg/kg/day) body weight in chickens and 53 to 130 mg/lb/day (117 to 286 mg/kg/day) body weight in turkeys, depending upon the dosage, age and class of chickens or turkeys, ambient temperature, and other factors.
ADMINISTRATION: CATTLE, CALVES AND SWINE
Add the required dose given above to that amount of water that will be consumed in 1 day; consumption should be carefully checked. Factors such as temperature, humidity and disease will cause variable fluid intake. As a generalization, the above animals will consume approximately 1 gallon per 100 lb body weight per day.
ADMINISTRATION: CHICKENS AND TURKEYS
Add the required dose given above to that amount of water that will be consumed in 1 day. Water consumption should be carefully checked to insure adequate drug intake. As a generalization, 100 turkeys will drink 1 gallon of water per day for each week of age; chickens will consume one-half this amount.
Infectious Coryza (in chickens): Medicate for 2 consecutive days.
Acute Fowl Cholera and Pullorum Disease (in chickens): Medicate for 6 consecutive days.
Coccidiosis (in chickens and turkeys): Medicate as above for 2 days, then reduce amount of Sulmet Drinking Water Solution to one-half above for 4 additional days.
WARNING
DO NOT MEDICATE CHICKENS OR TURKEYS PRODUCING EGGS FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION. TO AVOID DRUG RESIDUES IN EDIBLE FLESH - WITHDRAW MEDICATION FROM CHICKENS AND TURKEYS TEN (10) DAYS PRIOR TO SLAUGHTER FOR FOOD.
TREATED CATTLE MUST NOT BE SLAUGHTERED FOR AT LEAST TEN (10) DAYS AFTER THE LAST DOSE. EXCEEDING FIVE (5) CONSECUTIVE DAYS OF TREATMENT MAY CAUSE VIOLATIVE TISSUE RESIDUE TO REMAIN BEYOND THE WITHDRAWAL TIME. DO NOT USE IN CALVES UNDER ONE (1) MONTH OF AGE OR CALVES BEING FED AN ALL-MILK DIET. USE IN THESE CLASSES OF CALVES MAY CAUSE VIOLATIVE RESIDUES TO REMAIN BEYOND THE WITHDRAWAL TIME. DO NOT USE IN FEMALE DAIRY CATTLE 20 MONTHS OF AGE OR OLDER. USE OF SULFAMETHAZINE IN THIS CLASS OF CATTLE MAY CAUSE MILK RESIDUES.
WITHDRAW MEDICATION FROM SWINE FIFTEEN (15) DAYS PRIOR TO SLAUGHTER FOR FOOD.
CAUTION
For best advice in control and treatment of animal disease, consult a veterinarian.
Have only medicated water available during treatment, and check carefully to insure adequate Sulmet dosage and water intake. Cattle and calves not drinking or eating must be dosed by drench or with Sulmet Oblets. For best results, treat sick animals individually.
In poultry, consult a veterinarian or poultry pathologist for diagnosis. For control of outbreaks of disease, medication should be initiated as soon as the diagnosis is determined.
Medicated cattle, swine, chickens and turkeys must actually consume enough medicated water which provides the recommended dosages.
Sulmet works fast. If symptoms persist after using this preparation for 2 or 3 days, consult a veterinarian. Excessive dosage may cause toxic reactions; follow above dosage and administration instructions carefully. Hatchability of eggs laid during medication with sulfas and for short periods thereafter, may be adversely affected. Treatment of all diseases should be instituted early. Treatment should continue 24 to 48 hours beyond the remission of disease symptoms, but not to exceed a total of 5 consecutive days in cattle or swine.​

Fort Dodge Animal Health
800-5th Street N.W., P.O. Box 518
Fort Dodge, IA 50501
1-800-477-1365
www.wyeth.com​

Disclaimer
Every effort has been made by Jeffers to ensure the accuracy of the information listed above. However, it remains your responsibility to become familiar with the products you are purchasing. Please consult your family veterinarian if you have any questions.


The pictures are from The Penn State Poultry Health Handbook
This is a great resource!
http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/agrs52.pdf

 

[OHmamma]

I buy Sulmet by the gallon and I also use SulfaMed-G powder. It might not cover as much as the Corrid but it has always worked and is formulated for poultry. Honestly I have never tired the Corrid since I have been using Sulmet successfully for over 10 years.

The idea of overdosing is something I worry about and as far as the Milk replacer "Scour Ease" that I mentioned in the previous post, I only used it because they were continuing with the bloody stool after the sulmet. I lost 4 of the 17 chicks I had in that hatch in one night so I was feeling pretty drastic. Before that bunch I had only had the bloody diarrhea in one batch that I had bought at a swap. (Some of my first ever chicks) they were all dead within 12hrs of the onset of symptoms.

I started using probiotics last spring and noticed a huge improvement in the overall health and the birds were eating less and gaining more weight. They did also start drinking more. I believe the probiotics sweeten the water some. I used the "Pro Bios" for goats but there is one formulated for poultry. Cost wise it was better for me to by it by the 1lb goat container since I keep more chickens than most people.

yogurt and scrambled or boiled eggs are also good for recovering chicks. you can even mix it with their starter.

 

[casportpony]

FWIW, most medicated chick starters use amprolium (Corid), but as we all should know, it won't treat and outbreak, it's just a preventative.

 

[DaddyBird]

Good info everybody, thanks.