4 dayold chick prolapsed vent??

[Frankiegirl]

She ended up dying. I'm losing most of my bantams idk if they are just more fragile or what. I bought about 18 of them and have 11 left. Idk what to do. I have another one who is lethargic now and not wanting to eat or drink. The last 3 I saw they were like that and I gave them save a chick with a syringe. It seemed to speed up their dying. Bc within an hour they were gone. This breaks my heart I'm so angry at tsc bc they refuse to do anything about it. Like oh we sold u a bunch of sick chicks too bad. Sorry about your luck. Yet they refund you for feed that your animals end up not liking. I always give new chicks medicated feed and I put a tiny bit of corid in their water just to make sure they don't get sick like 2-3mls per gallon. My brooder is super clean and I do a deep clean every 3 days. Idk what I'm doing wrong with these. I have about 50 hens and chicks total and yes I've lost some due to FTT but never 7 out of one batch. I've lost a total of 7 out of all of them before this.

First of all…I am so sorry you are experiencing this. That is horrible. I too use medicated feed but have never used Corid….

I wonder if your chicks you bought have something. I agree that purchasing through a feed store is useless when you need help. I think they get their stock from Townline which is in Michigan. Perhaps you can call them. I will never buy from a store again for the reasons you state. Their service is horrible.

@aart…@follysplace can you give this a look and weigh in? I have always gotten really good info from you both and maybe you can offer an idea.

It’s worth a try to offer either some scrambled egg mixed in w their food in a slurry to give them some nutrition and liquid or perhaps some yogurt. My girls hated yogurt but its worth a try.

You are doing the best you can….if I have learned anything in my short time, you dont be too hard on yourself…please keep posting and hopefully aart and follysplace might have a suggestion.

 

[Frankiegirl]

First of all…I am so sorry you are experiencing this. That is horrible. I too use medicated feed but have never used Corid….

I wonder if your chicks you bought have something. I agree that purchasing through a feed store is useless when you need help. I think they get their stock from Townline which is in Michigan. Perhaps you can call them. I will never buy from a store again for the reasons you state. Their service is horrible.

@aart…@follysplace can you give this a look and weigh in? I have always gotten really good info from you both and maybe you can offer an idea.

It’s worth a try to offer either some scrambled egg mixed in w their food in a slurry to give them some nutrition and liquid or perhaps some yogurt. My girls hated yogurt but its worth a try.

You are doing the best you can….if I have learned anything in my short time, you dont be too hard on yourself…please keep posting and hopefully aart and follysplace might have a suggestion.

@aart
@Folly's place can you take a look at this and see if you can help….THANKS

 

[Folly's place]

So sorry for your chicks!
I wonder if they are still suffering from shipping stress, chilling, or on the other hand, overheating. Bantam chicks will get chilled faster, and seem fragile compared to chicks who have more body mass.
Our April shipped chicks arrived a day late, with no heat pack, and many died, especially the bantams. I tried giving electrolytes orally too, and despite having experience doing it, those chicks died, probably faster. It is very difficult to manage giving oral meds or liquids to failing birds, they might seem to be swallowing, but likely aren't. And extra handling is just more stress.
By the time the chick looks bad, it's really really sick! We lost six bantam chicks and had five survive. Our worst ever too. Awful!
Do what you can, and don't feel that you failed, these babies are just so delicate.
Mary

 

[Wyorp Rock]

She ended up dying. I'm losing most of my bantams idk if they are just more fragile or what. I bought about 18 of them and have 11 left. Idk what to do. I have another one who is lethargic now and not wanting to eat or drink. The last 3 I saw they were like that and I gave them save a chick with a syringe. It seemed to speed up their dying. Bc within an hour they were gone. This breaks my heart I'm so angry at tsc bc they refuse to do anything about it. Like oh we sold u a bunch of sick chicks too bad. Sorry about your luck. Yet they refund you for feed that your animals end up not liking. I always give new chicks medicated feed and I put a tiny bit of corid in their water just to make sure they don't get sick like 2-3mls per gallon. My brooder is super clean and I do a deep clean every 3 days. Idk what I'm doing wrong with these. I have about 50 hens and chicks total and yes I've lost some due to FTT but never 7 out of one batch. I've lost a total of 7 out of all of them before this.

Please post some photos of the brooder set-up and the chicks.

They are what...10 days old by now?

You may want to offer wet chick starter - by now they should be able to handle crumble, but small chicks like bantams often the crumble is still too big for them to eat right off the bat.

Interesting that syringing electrolytes seems to speed up the dying - could they be aspirating fluids? What are they electrolytes that you use?

A "tiny bit" of Corid in the water is not going to be effective if Coccidiosis is the problem.
Give the correct dose of 2tsp for Liquid Corid or 1 1/2 tsp Powdered Corid per gallon of water for 5-7 days. Corid should be the only thing in the water during this time.

What are you cleaning the brooder with - you mention "deep clean". Chicks on medicated feed should be exposed to poop. Sorry, that's the way it works. Now, you don't want your brooder really filthy, but super clean is not the way chickens live either. There has to be a balance.

 

[davidhluther]

I’ve got a bantam that we bought today from Tractor Supply that’s having a similar issue. I was tidying up the area near their brooder and looked over, saw her stand up to “stretch,” and then heard what sounded like a wet fart and she started peeping frantically. I saw her walking around and trying to reach her vent, and swooped in to snag her right when one of the others went in for a peck at it.

Same thing, swollen and protruding vent — used antibiotic ointment (without anesthetic) and my gloves finger tip, and then a Q-Tip, to gently try to press it in. I didn’t want to add any trauma to the area, so I worked from the outside and massaged different areas… and then a clear, thin liquid spurted out. Like, a narrow and straight stream that traveled about two feet. This seemed to ease her, but I’m concerned about the nature of that liquid. No signs of a stone or chunk yet like others have noted, but I separated her in the brooder and gave her some water with electrolytes and vitamins. I’ve seen suggestions online saying not to feed them for a day or so, does this work in y’all’s experience? Should I try a liquid with molasses or some other carb, or would mushing their food with water (and replacing quickly so it doesn’t grow a funk) help — at least for the others?

I’m going to go to the feed store to see what treatment options they may have, then check on her again when I return. I’ll post pictures and updates, so anyone else finding this thread ten years after its formation like I did may benefit.

 

[davidhluther]

I’ve got a bantam that we bought today from Tractor Supply that’s having a similar issue. I was tidying up the area near their brooder and looked over, saw her stand up to “stretch,” and then heard what sounded like a wet fart and she started peeping frantically. I saw her walking around and trying to reach her vent, and swooped in to snag her right when one of the others went in for a peck at it.

Same thing, swollen and protruding vent — used antibiotic ointment (without anesthetic) and my gloves finger tip, and then a Q-Tip, to gently try to press it in. I didn’t want to add any trauma to the area, so I worked from the outside and massaged different areas… and then a clear, thin liquid spurted out. Like, a narrow and straight stream that traveled about two feet. This seemed to ease her, but I’m concerned about the nature of that liquid. No signs of a stone or chunk yet like others have noted, but I separated her in the brooder and gave her some water with electrolytes and vitamins. I’ve seen suggestions online saying not to feed them for a day or so, does this work in y’all’s experience? Should I try a liquid with molasses or some other carb, or would mushing their food with water (and replacing quickly so it doesn’t grow a funk) help — at least for the others?

I’m going to go to the feed store to see what treatment options they may have, then check on her again when I return. I’ll post pictures and updates, so anyone else finding this thread ten years after its formation like I did may benefit.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I’ve got a bantam that we bought today from Tractor Supply that’s having a similar issue. I was tidying up the area near their brooder and looked over, saw her stand up to “stretch,” and then heard what sounded like a wet fart and she started peeping frantically. I saw her walking around and trying to reach her vent, and swooped in to snag her right when one of the others went in for a peck at it.

Same thing, swollen and protruding vent — used antibiotic ointment (without anesthetic) and my gloves finger tip, and then a Q-Tip, to gently try to press it in. I didn’t want to add any trauma to the area, so I worked from the outside and massaged different areas… and then a clear, thin liquid spurted out. Like, a narrow and straight stream that traveled about two feet. This seemed to ease her, but I’m concerned about the nature of that liquid. No signs of a stone or chunk yet like others have noted, but I separated her in the brooder and gave her some water with electrolytes and vitamins. I’ve seen suggestions online saying not to feed them for a day or so, does this work in y’all’s experience? Should I try a liquid with molasses or some other carb, or would mushing their food with water (and replacing quickly so it doesn’t grow a funk) help — at least for the others?

I’m going to go to the feed store to see what treatment options they may have, then check on her again when I return. I’ll post pictures and updates, so anyone else finding this thread ten years after its formation like I did may benefit.

Welcome To BYC

Photos would be helpful.

How warm is your brooder?
I'd work on getting her hydrated, you can give some electrolytes or if you have it Poultry Nutri-Drench would be good.

I would not withhold feed. You can give wet feed if you wish. I would give her coconut oil twice a day, hardened chunks that she can eat by herself is best. Liquid oil is easily aspirated.