42-day wonders

[Bossroo]

Yaaaaay, let's shut down the industrial producers as being advocated in England to be politically correct because we can now go to the farmer's market to get our foodstufs and save on corn based ethanol fuel. But wait ! Most farmer's markets that I know of or read about CLOSE for the winter just about when most of the crops are finished being harvested. They don't reopen untill the new crops start to be picked in late spring or early summer. Now what? My old fashioned brain still can't grasp the concept of the politically correct new math especially in today's economy. If Momma goes to the farmer's market when it is open and wants to buy a chicken , the price is $5.00 a pound and that chicken weighs 4 pounds. So she pays $20.00 for that chicken that ran around free range, eating grass and bugs and some organic feed, rain or shine, butchered by a owner or a processor then frozen and later taken to the farmer's market in an ice chest in the back of a pickup truck. In the winter time when the farmer's market is closed, Momma goes to Wal-Mart and buys a four pound chicken at $0.99 a pound. So she pays $3.96 for a chicken raised on scientifically formulated nutricous diet in a climate and light controlled environment, processed in a strict detailed specific protocol, Veterinary inspected sanitary facility and braught to Wal-Mart in refrigerated trucks just hours after processing. So, $20.00 minus $3.96 = $16.04 that Momma's purse no longer holds. Especially in today's economy, when thausands are being laid off, how sustainable is that for her household when her kiddies whant something to eat ? Did someone say food stamps ??? She can now buy $0.99 a pound chicken year round!!!

 

[Brunty_Farms]

Bossroo? Are you trying to prove a point to someone here or something??? Because you've got me thrown for a loop.....

Who said anything about $5.oo/ lb chicken? Don't make false assumptions about anyone unless you know what your getting into.... You know nothing about me or the way I do buisness.... so please don't assume. The old saying is true... don't assume.

First off, we charge $2.25 / lb for chicken on our farm. Pasture raised chicken that is humanly raised and processed that would surpass any USDA or Foreign regulations. Our standards don't even compare it's like apples and oranges.

I sell all of my birds on my farm. With more than 3.5 million visitors a year that visit my area it's easy to sell chicken locally. They need to only travel a few miles to get my chicken compared to the amount of fuel that is used in commercial poultry, I would say I'm doing pretty good on keeping my part in staying green.

Lastly I don't have any problem with commercial raised chicken. I don't agree with it and I don't condone it. But I know you can't feed the world the way I raise chickens never said I could. You want to buy cheap 99 cent chicken.....be my guest???? I could care less???? I don't think differently if you want to buy cheap chicken..... So what seems to be the problem????

Not everyone can afford a $75,000 car.... you don't hear them complaining....... Not everyone can afford $2.25 / lb chicken, so if people don't want to buy it.... the're not going to hurt my feelings. I sell out every week, why do I want to sit and cry because someone can't afford my chicken?????

I think some people are arguing points that quite frankly.... can't be argued???


Chickens are slaughtered and raised just like everything else... you either get the $75,000 SUV or the $2,000 beater that gets you through the winter. It's simple, low quality chickens are crammed into big warehouses and processed with the occasional chicken being slammed around and possibly scalded alive....................................... OR.............................You get the chicken that is raised with standards set in place. With our chicken there is no overcrowded chickens and each one is checked before it's scalded. (these examples can go on forever by the way)

I'm sorry but quality always cost a little more, and I'm sure you have been around long enough to know this. Before you start assuming ask questions first. Again I have nothing against the way chickens are massed produced and slaughtered. So again the point behind your argument is what???

 

[ltlchicken]

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part of the reason japan has a ban on us import of our beef is because we sell cheap beef. their government is making sure that the beef grown in japan is still able to be sold at a premium by keeping the competition out. their government can do this and not get complaints from it's citizens because it is a country grown on fish, not beef. their country, unlike ours, does not demand cheap items. japan is a country of citizens who purchase items based on the label, not the price. and many years, they have been told that american beef is inferior to the japanese beef, so the citizens don't call for the ban to be lifted. american's aren't going to fight to try and supply a country where there is no great demand.

and it's true. japanese beef, vegetables, chicken, pig....they all taste better over there because they are grown by small farms, not massed produced like here in the states. there is an intensity in the taste of their produce which is lacking here in the states.

"formerly from japan"

 

[greyfields]

I lost the plot somewhere, too.

 

[Brunty_Farms]

 

[Bossroo]

Grasshopper... Frog jumps in pond. SPLASH !

 

[Bossroo]

If you are wondering... just a powerful thaught provoking poem writen by a simple monk a 1000 years ago.

 

[dancingbear]

Bossroo, I see you still have a problem with people who raise their own birds any way other than how you choose to do it.

Free-ranging chickens is not inhumane. The birds are not freaked out or traumatized. They like to run around and act like real chickens. Chickens did not evolve in little cages or broiler houses. They evolved in a jungle.

Most people who free-range have a coop that birds return to at night. When it's time to butcher, birds are usually removed from the roosts at night, and placed in pens or cages to be butchered the next morning. This can be done very calmly with a minimum of fuss, with a little practice. Your image of people chasing terrified chickens around a field is ludicrous, and I'm sure you already knew that before you wrote that ridiculous post, since you've engaged in these same discussions over and over.

Most folks try to butcher the birds with as little trauma as they can, or at least make it as quick as they can, even though they don't have electric stunner set-ups. The birds have pretty happy lives up until the very last day. Most of us try to make that last day as stress free as we can. Many of us butcher and process the birds ourselves, at home. Some take them to a processor. Even then, most try to transport them with a little stress as they can manage. There are a few that haul birds unprotected in bad weather to a processor, but that's not nearly as common as you seem to think, or would like people to think.

The idea that having crews of workers wading through the broiler house grabbing birds by the legs, three to a hand as was described in another post, and cramming them into crates to be trucked to the slaughter house, where they're roughly yanked out of the cages and shackled upside down, before going through the electrified water to be stunned, is somehow more humane and moral is just absurd.

I don't think you're ever going to convince any of us that we're somehow doing something wrong by not just giving up and buying our birds at Walmart, or raising them for Walmart using your preferred method as our Bible. That appears to be your agenda, from what I've read of your posts.

We know that mass production of broilers is here to stay. There are people who will never raise their own, and can't afford to buy the higher priced free-range birds. That doesn't mean that everybody, everywhere, must never eat any chicken but a mass-produced chicken, or raise anything but a mass produced chicken.

We don't have to be identical. We don't all have to do things the same way. That's reality. Get over it.

BTW, neither "bought", nor "thought" is spelled with an "a". Though I guess we don't all have to spell things the same way either. It just makes it easier to read.

 

[mikarod]

Editing for my own comfort.

 

[dancingbear]

Mikarod, did a moderator post something in this thread that I missed? I'm just wondering why you posted that, and where it came from.