Aww, so sorry for your loss. Happy for your sucess. <applause>I got up this am.. 3 more EE and 2 Chabos,,, One maran has hatched since I have been up ... I had two that where DOA,, Both pipped good. temps and humidity great,, both pipped all the way around but just did not push out,,, both big strong looking,everything had been absorbed,, Should got up in the middle of the night to check,, the looked still moist when we opened them up.. only the strong survive folks,, ONLY the Strong< ALASKAN MOTTO<<<Only the WARM SURVIVE<<<<<Peace,,,