a beautiful crow?

[subhanalah]

Has anyone ever bred a breed of chicken that is known for its beautiful crow?

Is that a ridiculous question?

 

[theoldchick]

I think there is a breed known for their long crows and another breed whose crow sounds like a laughing hyena.

No, its not a ridiculous question.

Google Longcrower and Laughing chicken and check out the videos on you tube.

 

[subhanalah]

I think there is a breed known for their long crows and another breed whose crow sounds like a laughing hyena.  

No, its not  a ridiculous question.

Google Longcrower and Laughing chicken and check out the videos on you tube.

OK, OT but how did they do that.

 

[theoldchick]

I would surmise through selective breeding they created these type of crowers. That's the only thing I can think of.

 

[subhanalah]

Well, yeah, how most animals are altered...but, do you think it came from mimicry? Or some other thing. That's a pretty specific thing to teach a roo? How would you propagate that behavior in the first place?

 

[theoldchick]

Could have been a mutation that appeared up unexpectedly in a flock. Someone liked the odd crow and decided to perpetuate that particular trait. Through careful line breeding the breed was developed. I don' t think the rooster is trained to crow that way and don't think the rooster is altered to crow in such a manner.

Of course, since I don't breed this type of bird, you might want to contact and ask a breeder of this type of bird.

 

[subhanalah]

The history of it had me rather intrigued. I wonder if this particular trait had to do with mimicry and trickery to make others for protection from other predators?

the long crow seems easy enough, I've heard some roosters crow, and that just seems to be someone especially liking the longer crowing and as time went on the trait was rewarded with crowing longer and longer?

 

[theoldchick]

Most likely. I can't see a evolutionary advantage over having a longer or strange sounding crow. Now us human can select for a desired trait that might not be advantageous to survival of a chicken. Look at the Silkie. People have selectively bred for certain traits and now the Silkie is a poof ball who can't see unless the feathers around the face is trimmed. Look what breeders have done to dogs. Todays Basset Hound is not the same type of Basset as a 100 years ago.

So, I imagine people selectively breeding for this type of crow, and as time passed, the crow became even more altered. I'm sure the rooster with the most desired crow will be chosen to mate. As to why this crow would suddenly appear in the gene pool is a mystery. Nature is always creating mutations in her slow tedious manner, and at times Humans will find something odd and breed for that particular trait. Just like the Basset Hound was originally bred for its slower hunting style so the people who did not have horses could keep up with them. The Basset Hound of today, however, is so distorted with is droopy facial folds and crooked short legs that the breed can really no longer stick to a trail for a very long time.

 

[subhanalah]

Most likely.  I can't see a evolutionary advantage over having a longer or strange sounding crow.  Now us human can select for a desired trait that might not be advantageous to survival of a chicken.  Look at the Silkie.  People have selectively bred for certain traits and now the Silkie is a poof ball who can't see unless the feathers around the face is trimmed.  Look what breeders have done to dogs.  Todays Basset Hound is not the same type of Basset as a 100 years ago.

So, I imagine people selectively breeding for this type of crow, and as time passed, the crow became even more altered.  I'm sure the rooster with the most desired crow will be chosen to mate.  As to why this crow would suddenly appear in the gene pool is a mystery.  Nature is always creating mutations in her slow tedious manner, and at times Humans will find something odd and breed for that particular trait.  Just like the Basset Hound was originally bred for its slower hunting style so the people who did not have horses could keep up with them.  The Basset Hound of today, however, is so distorted with is droopy facial folds and crooked short legs that the breed can really no longer stick to a trail for a very long time.

sadly, a lot of dog breeds are that way. If you think about it, all chickens are lacking something or other from their nature, like mothering ability turned off to lay more per year.

It just depends on what your priorities are. I think if silkies ever lost their broodiness,or it were taken too far to the extreme, I could see negative consequences for that. Wow, what a tangent. Its kind of on topic, right?

Oh, ETA: maybe the crow IAS similar to breeding call duckjs and how they became the way they are from other ducks. I think they got small because loud calling and talkativeness was somehow connected to the smaller genes? I wonder if anyone has done study about that?

 

[Serenity Sav]

With regards to the laughing chickens, I think it's just naturally occurring, though I could be totally wrong. They are from Indonesia if I recall correctly, and none have been imported to the U.S. yet. I'd soooo want some if they were available to us here.