A Hawk! (And My Well Built Coop)

Laurajean

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I put this here instead of the Predator section hoping that people in the plans or process of building a coop can read it. My chicken coop/run is located just a few feet from my home office window, maybe 20 feet to the left of my window. I was just sitting here at my desk when I heard the hens making a loud fuss. I didn't think much of it, because they've been squabbling lately in general, and also make a loud scene just laying an egg.
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A moment later I *happened* to look up as a GIANT hawk flew RIGHT by my window, coming from the direction of the coop. He was very large and VERY low, level with my downstairs window! I was stunned for a moment, and then suddenly remembered the scene my chickens were making a moment before. I ran out to my porch and looked at the coop. All my Silkies & Bantams were hiding under the coop and my Rooster and my RIR, the only large breed hen, were both out looking alarmed. I stared for a moment, and then I realized: Of course they were fine! I went out of my way last year to build the perfect coop. I had thought it out, designed it well and it's virtually predator proof. I think it would take a determined bear to get into it. The coop is within the run, the run is fully enclosed with half inch hardware cloth on all sides, top and bottom (under the dirt floor). I have a plastic corrugated roof on top of the run. There is NO way a hawk could get to them. He could land on top and look in, which I suspect he did, but absolutely no way to get in to them.

With great relief I went back inside, thinking it was silly I was even worried at all. Made me think to post it here. The importance of a predator proof coop! Had I taken short cuts last year, I might be in the predator section right now telling a story with a very different outcome.
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Also, last fall I had gone out one day to see that some critter, raccoon, weasel, etc., had TRIED unsuccessfully to dig a hole under the run near the door. Had I not laid down hardware cloth UNDER the dirt floor, it may have gotten in. My neighbors all think I went overboard when I had my coop built, but since then they have all lost chickens to predators, some giving up on chickens altogether out of frustration of losing them. I don't gloat of course, but I am pleased that I went through the extra trouble that I did, because I have never lost one as a result.

Please take the time to plan out, save up cash, think through the design of your coop and do it right the first time. It's SO worth the heartache later of wishing you had done things differently, especially if you live in an area with a lot of predators like I do.

We post a lot about problems, but I thought it might be nice to post about something that went right! I hope it helps anyone building a coop to take a good look at their design.
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Sure, here's a link that I posted last summer when it was first finished. I describe in pretty good detail why I made certain design choices. The only modifications I've made since then were slanting the top of the nesting boxes so they couldn't just stand on it and poop, and I edited it just now because I saw that I put hay in the nesting boxes, and have since discovered that's not a great idea. Otherwise it's been perfect. Predator-wise especially, no complaints. And the design is good snow-wise too, the snow slides to the back and into the woods from the slanted roof as I expected. Oh, and the sand floor worked out to be fantastic! SO glad I did that, it stays clean and dry, I just love it.

Here's the link from last July:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4510335#p4510335
 
I have a question for LauraJean. We are frantically trying to finish our coop and are not sure what we should do for the outside ground. Should we horizontally lay wire from side to side (dig and remove the sod/grass to place the wire then add dirt on top and hope that grass grows fast?) or should we dig 12" straight down all around the perimeter? We want it to be predator-proof, but we are now very short on time!
Thanks to anyone who can answer this!
-Cindy
Lapin63
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Nice job on the coop and run. Looks similar to mine except that mine is solid fencing all the way around except the gate.

And we have welded wire burried all the way around our run. It's easier to secure it to the fence and come out 12 inches. But along one line, the property line, we did go straight down and both have held up just fine. And I know the racoons are inspecting it all the time for weaknesses.
 
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Hi Lapin, I considered the option of digging a 12" trench all the way around, but this seemed difficult and time consuming, especially since my ground is over a lot of rock, which would make digging difficult. So here's what I did. I left the ground as is, laid down slightly overlapping strips of hardware cloth on the ground slightly longer and wider that my coop footprint, but covering the entire floor. Then I had the coop frame built on top of that, then once the wood frame was in place, I bent the extra edges on all sides upward and nailed them to the frame. So the shape of the wire would look like a baking tray, if that makes sense. Then I had sand delivered and dumped on top of all this and spread out, about 7 inches deep. This worked great, and the sandy run stays clean and dry. This saves time and is more thorough, although also more expensive because it uses more hardware cloth and then I had to buy the sand to cover it, but for me it was worth it! Hope that helps.
 
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great looking run/coop We finished my new coop but have not finished the run yet DH looked at me the other day and ask do you want the top covered I just looked at him. He said right covered it is.
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I live in town and I am not taking chances.
 
Im so silly, yea, I tried to edit my post before you saw it!... lol.. I got excited for a sec as I thought you may have used your garden shed as a coup too.. I'm looking for inside pictures of ones where people have converted half of the shed..

Ive been thinking about the floor on ours too.. the inside... It sits on concrete.. so I'm trying to decide what kind of bedding to use inside the coup. It will be 6x10..(the back half of the shed) I'm not sure if I should have a 4 foot area on the ground with nesting boxs along the back wall.. with a later going up to a 5 foot loft of sorts.. with a wire floor and a drop catch there that I can clean out..with roosts ect.. This will then give me the ability to use under the drop board for storage.. or something.. I'm still working it out in my head.. I do know that I want a full size door so that I can enter the area without issue.. .. The front half of the building will be for storage as well..

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I put a link above to last summer when I first posted pics.
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Here it is again:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4510335#p4510335
 
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