A little different way of adding chicks

Mrs. K

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After my failure to get a broody hen, I went back to my own way of brooding chicks. It is not to say it would work for you, but it gets them out into the flock ASAP.

In the beginning, like most of you, I set up heat lamps, feed and water in my garage. But I do the nights a little differently. Instead of leaving the lights on all night, I put them into a smaller dog crate with what I call a 'wooly hen" just half a box with wool pompoms glued to it, and covered with a dish towel, (as once or twice I had a chick get tangled in the wool. It is very light weight, and the chicks snuggle underneath it. I shut off the lights and within a minute or two, there is silence. They are asleep. They become situated to the crate much like full grown birds do to a coop.

My chicks were Hatched April 2nd, Sunday was nice, so I took them to an empty smaller pen, in their crate, and left them in the sunshine and fresh air, and a couple of hours later, they were tired. Much like chickens that are let out of a run, they did not go far that day. Easy to round up, and I put them back under the lights for a little while before bed.

Next day, wash repeat, only this time when I got there at 4:00, there was no way to round them up. They were having the time of their lives, jumping up on things, dirt bathing, just being chicks with more space. I waited until almost dark, and they were tucked into the crate all by themselves. I closed it up, and placed it in my coop.

This morning, I put feed and water outside, and let my layers out, locking them out. I set up the dog crate so that when they left the crate, they were in safety zone, with food and water. The bottom of the wire panel, (an old crib spring) has the bottom edge lifted up. I placed a pallet piece in front of it, and there is gaps on both sides. The chicks can run through it like water.

When I got home tonight, I let the layers in. I sat down there for 2 hours. There was basically no problems at all. I think the layers think they are junco's, and ignore them. Only once, did Miss Beasley give one a peck who was standing in the feed bowl. The chick chirped and immediately ran to the safety zone, and oh yeah, we have our own food here.

Couple of points. I have a very large run. Most of my layers were raised in a multi-generational flock with chicks often present. However, my new rooster, and pullet have never seen them. Once after the layers were in, a hawk flew nearby, the rooster called an alarm, and even the chicks were still and quiet. Kind of neat to see.

I will go down again, shortly before full dark. Lock the crate and put the crate into the coop. In the morning, I will set it up again next to the safety zone. They are two weeks old, and to me, in a much healthier situation, than when they were in the too small brooder pen. Sometimes in an effort to keep them safe, I think we baby them too much. Todays temperatures were in the high 60s, and it will probably get down to freezing tonight. It should not be any colder in there than in the garage. I am sure they will be fine, they were last night.
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I have had very good luck with the wooly hen. They snuggle right down, and if you put your hand in there, it is as warm as toast. It needs to be close to them, but light enough that they can move under it, and really lift it up is they stand up. And insulating.

If you think about it, heat rises. So really a lot of the heat of the hen is rising away from the chicks. Mostly what a hen does is capture the chicks heat. Much like blankets on the bed.

The real trick here is to get them attached to the dog crate. There is no way you can catch baby chicks in a run with clutter in it, they are like reaching for shadows. But shortly before dark, they get a drink of water, peck a few crumbs, and just casually walk into the crate. There were 4 out of 12, still outside tonight when I went down there. One or two at a time, they slipped into the crate and under the wooly hen. I shut the door, and placed it in my coop.

In the two days, they are stronger, flying up on things, basking in the sun. I like them outside, I don't have electricity to the coop, dread heat lamps and extension cords. This is working well.
 
Well today, I am a little bit more nervous. We have had a week of day time temperatures in the 70's. This morning cold and wet - sometimes rain, sometimes snow, temperatures in the upper 40's.

I don't want them to get wet and then chilled. On the other hand, anything moving that fast is in no danger of dying.

I have been checking them every two hours. Two hours ago, I got 7/12 into the coop. It does seem warmer in there. I just went out, and found the other five huddled pretty tight together in a shelter, peeping.

With a great deal of luck, I got them into the coop. And I shut them in there. Immediately the peeping stopped, and when I peaked in, they are running all over, quite excited to find a feed bowl in there.

I do believe they are healthier outside in the sun and fresh air, with space to exercise...but I will admit I was wondering this morning if it was such a good idea. But so far, they seem just fine.

Mrs K
 
These chicks hatched April 4 or 5 and I received them on the 6th. So they are approximately 20 days old. They are racing around this morning, outside, cloudy, a bit windy and in the mid 40's.

They are not completely feathered although feathers are growing in. They are active, in amongst the adult birds, who totally ignore them. They are jumping and flying up on things, eating well, bright eyed and active.

I think that the current advice to keep them under heat lamps until they are completely feathered is inaccurate. I think that the idea of keeping them warm makes people keep them in too small of an area in the effort to keep them safe.

Mrs K
 
After my failure to get a broody hen, I went back to my own way of brooding chicks. It is not to say it would work for you, but it gets them out into the flock ASAP.

In the beginning, like most of you, I set up heat lamps, feed and water in my garage. But I do the nights a little differently. Instead of leaving the lights on all night, I put them into a smaller dog crate with what I call a 'wooly hen" just half a box with wool pompoms glued to it, and covered with a dish towel, (as once or twice I had a chick get tangled in the wool. It is very light weight, and the chicks snuggle underneath it. I shut off the lights and within a minute or two, there is silence. They are asleep. They become situated to the crate much like full grown birds do to a coop.

My chicks were Hatched April 2nd, Sunday was nice, so I took them to an empty smaller pen, in their crate, and left them in the sunshine and fresh air, and a couple of hours later, they were tired. Much like chickens that are let out of a run, they did not go far that day. Easy to round up, and I put them back under the lights for a little while before bed.

Next day, wash repeat, only this time when I got there at 4:00, there was no way to round them up. They were having the time of their lives, jumping up on things, dirt bathing, just being chicks with more space. I waited until almost dark, and they were tucked into the crate all by themselves. I closed it up, and placed it in my coop.

This morning, I put feed and water outside, and let my layers out, locking them out. I set up the dog crate so that when they left the crate, they were in safety zone, with food and water. The bottom of the wire panel, (an old crib spring) has the bottom edge lifted up. I placed a pallet piece in front of it, and there is gaps on both sides. The chicks can run through it like water.

When I got home tonight, I let the layers in. I sat down there for 2 hours. There was basically no problems at all. I think the layers think they are junco's, and ignore them. Only once, did Miss Beasley give one a peck who was standing in the feed bowl. The chick chirped and immediately ran to the safety zone, and oh yeah, we have our own food here.

Couple of points. I have a very large run. Most of my layers were raised in a multi-generational flock with chicks often present. However, my new rooster, and pullet have never seen them. Once after the layers were in, a hawk flew nearby, the rooster called an alarm, and even the chicks were still and quiet. Kind of neat to see.

I will go down again, shortly before full dark. Lock the crate and put the crate into the coop. In the morning, I will set it up again next to the safety zone. They are two weeks old, and to me, in a much healthier situation, than when they were in the too small brooder pen. Sometimes in an effort to keep them safe, I think we baby them too much. Todays temperatures were in the high 60s, and it will probably get down to freezing tonight. It should not be any colder in there than in the garage. I am sure they will be fine, they were last night.View attachment 3071743View attachment 3071745
Very cool. As with most livestock, the natural ways that work with the needs and instincts of the animals, rather than for the convenience of us humans, are usually most healthy for the livestock, physically and mentally. You know your animals.👍 Very educational. Thank you!
 
I have had chicks in the coop one night at 40 degrees at only 2 weeks. (Didn't realize it would get that cold) Huddle boxes and wool hens can go along way. I have also "free ranged" chicks around brooders on the lawn. The chicks normally go in at dusk. I had one batch (out of 10 or so) that did the opposite. They would all be close to the brooder and then when it would get dark they would scatter. We had the dogs help with a nightly scavenger hunt for about 2 weeks. I enjoy reading about the way you approach things.
 
I think that the current advice to keep them under heat lamps until they are completely feathered is inaccurate. I think that the idea of keeping them warm makes people keep them in too small of an area in the effort to keep them safe.

Which then makes them weaker.

I admit that I was surprised to see 2-week babies up against the vent wall looking at the green world outside on a morning that was barely over 40F, but they know where their brooder plate is if they want it.
 
This concept really had me going and I was wondering about pics and voila . . . there some are at the end. Still wrapping my mind around (dog crate/woolly hen). We have 8 chicks now (planning on adding another 8 or so within next month) and trying to figure how I can get this to work with our flock. Then again, I was warned about trying to have birds of different ages together at this stage. So maybe I can do this after my current 8 are older. 🤔 With 8 I am thinking we need a huge dog cage to do this.

Did you make the wool pom poms yourself or purchase them? Trying to see with my minds eye the wool inside the dog crate.

I just looked up "wool pom poms" on eBay. They showed some tiny (like maybe 1") poms. I am assuming one would need a gazillion of them to work for our chickies. Or, what about making a wool pom myself? I used to make them for my roller skates then boots for marching band.
 

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