A more humane broody jail that actually works!

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I wanted to come up with a way to break a broody without losing her trust. She's a DSL Barnevelder and naturally skittish, but I've won her over with lots of socialization since hatch. When sitting, she's super nice to me and lets me take eggs from under her or handle the chicks after they hatch, without any problems. She whoops serious butt if another hen comes close though! So she's selectively nice just to me. It's a hard-earned trust, as she still doesn't want me touching her or picking her up, so I didn't want to ruin all that by stuffing her in a cage. She's broody again though and I don't want any more chicks, so I came up with a modified, more luxurious type of broody jail, and tried that as an experiment. And wow, it actually worked! And only took one day!!!!

What I did was I sectioned off part of the run for her. I gave her her own food, water, grit, fresh branches to graze on, things to perch on, and shade, but nothing soft and comfortable to sit in. Then I hosed down the ground so it was wet everywhere (to prevent her from making a nest in the run bedding, which is wood chips, dry leaves, mowed grass and other yard waste). I left her in her "fancy jail", without access to the coop, but within sight of the flock. Sprinkled some scratch around to give her something to do. She would occasionally pace back and forth along the chicken wire divider, but then she also scratched around and ate fresh greens from the branches, and climbed the logs, and had stuff to do, unlike the prisoners in Real Broody Jail. With the ground wet, I didn't see her sit anywhere (I checked on her periodically from my desk at home via my run cam). That evening, I waited until it was dark and carried her to the coop myself, and placed her on the roost. I wanted to make sure it was too dark for her to see and get down. I'd blocked the nests just in case. On the following morning, I let her come out with the flock and decided not to separate her, to see how she'd do. I unblocked the nests. She did not go into the coop at all! For two days, she acted normal except that she still had the broody cluck. So I let her stay with the flock, with full access to everything. After two days of broody-clucking but otherwise acting normal, on the third day her voice broke, and she was fully back to normal! Wohoo! So all it took was one single day in Fancy Humane Broody Jail. This will be my go to broody breaking method from now on. Of course, I have to add the usual disclaimer - "your experience may vary" (and mine may, too, next time, as every chicken and situation is different). So I'm not saying that this is a guaranteed method. But I wanted to share that it worked wonderfully for me (this time), and is a nice thing to try before you pull out the dreaded crate! It basically achieves the same goal as the crate - to isolate the hen and take away any comfy surface she could sit on - but it does it in a way that's a lot less stressful to her.

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The little structure on the left is their covered dust bath, which I blocked with a large planter dish to prevent the broody from trying to nest in it. And the black thing that looks like an umbrella handle above the broody is indeed that - an umbrella handle :lol: I opened a large umbrella in that corner and zip-tied it to the fence, to give the broody some more shade.

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She didn't seem too traumatized by her jail day, and we are still friends! :love
 
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@aart how's your broody situation going? I decided to try a new broody breaking method that would be less stressful to the hen (my broody was so nice to me while sitting and raising her chicks, that I didn't want to break her trust by stuffing her in a cage). It was an experiment, but it actually worked! And only took one day. I have described my experience here, if anybody else wants to give it a try.

I don't consider the breaker crate to be 'inhumane'.
Glad your set up worked for you.
 
I don't consider the breaker crate to be 'inhumane'.
Glad your set up worked for you.
Probably not. I was more worried about losing this particular hen's trust, because she's already skittish and it took a lot of work to get her to trust me, and because her trust is so precarious, it would be easier to lose than, say, the Orpingtons'. They love me and are extremely tolerant of anything, so they'd probably bounce back and be fine. But this one, I feel like if I stuffed her in a crate, she'd flip the F out and then run away from me from then on. And I definitely don't want that.
 
Probably not. I was more worried about losing this particular hen's trust, because she's already skittish and it took a lot of work to get her to trust me, and because her trust is so precarious, it would be easier to lose than, say, the Orpingtons'. They love me and are extremely tolerant of anything, so they'd probably bounce back and be fine. But this one, I feel like if I stuffed her in a crate, she'd flip the F out and then run away from me from then on. And I definitely don't want that.
Yeah, lap/pet chickens have never been my goal.
 
None of my chickens end up traumatized even after squawking their heads off when I handle them for too long. Including my current broody orloff. When picked up, she cusses me out in screechy chicken language screaming bloody murder. But the moment her feet’s on the ground again? goes right back to whatever she was doing before... lol.

Speaking of broody, my orloff is semi broody, I’ve kept her out of the nesting boxes and she doesn’t try to nest anywhere else. But if I open the boxes again, right back in she goes.

It’s been a month, and even when she doesn’t get to sit for days, she doesn’t eat normally and show zero signs of breaking... her keel bone is really starting to stick out.

So today I bit the bullet and decided to go full on broody jail with her.

I hope it works!
 

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None of my chickens end up traumatized even after squawking their heads off when I handle them for too long. Including my current broody orloff. When picked up, she cusses me out in screechy chicken language screaming bloody murder. But the moment her feet’s on the ground again? goes right back to whatever she was doing before... lol.

Speaking of broody, my orloff is semi broody, I’ve kept her out of the nesting boxes and she doesn’t try to nest anywhere else. But if I open the boxes again, right back in she goes.

It’s been a month, and even when she doesn’t get to sit for days, she doesn’t eat normally and show zero signs of breaking... her keel bone is really starting to stick out.

So today I bit the bullet and decided to go full on broody jail with her.

I hope it works!
Good luck! They're all different... I guess I was lucky that mine broke in just a single day. I've put a lot of effort into taming her and she's still only somewhat tame, that's why I don't want to risk it. She may be fine after the crate, or she may not... With the Orpingtons, I know they'll get over it, but with this particular hen, I'm just not so sure.
 
I think as long as you try to break 'em as soon as they decide to start sitting, an actual wire crate isn't required in many cases. I don't own a wire crate so I've stuck broodies in dog exercise pens inside the run, locked them in the brooder (which seems contradictory I know!), and even a homemade chicken wire "cage" out of the frame of a tea cart. Can't say they're any happier with those options vs a cage but as I've never had an issue breaking them, those work well enough for me.
 
What a great idea 👍🏻 I can’t stand watching the poor things clucking and running around either, so I put them in an extra run, sometimes 5 at a time ( did I mention my hens love to go broody 🙄) but it doesn’t work out as well, so wetting the ground is perfekt 😁 thank you
 
UPDATE: I have used this method multiple times since the original post, all of them successful, and am very happy with it! This particular hen went broody a couple more times by the end of the summer - seemed like she'd last about a month before going broody again. I used the fancy jail system and it was effective every time, though after the first time it took longer than a single day. I'd say more like 3-4 days? Still not too bad. One of my Orps also went broody at one point and I used this method with her, too. Took her about 3-4 days, too. So I declare the method a success!

I also want to point out and emphasize how incredibly useful having such a space is, even without broodies! I have used it for lots of other things, too - integrating new chicks, isolating a chicken because of bullying or to recover from injuries, or just to have one-on-one time with the pullets without the hens harassing them (the pullets are very attached to me and want to snuggle, but the hens kick them off my lap to sit there themselves and don't give them any time with me, so I wanted a space to snuggle with the pullets in peace). I have a large dog crate for isolating chickens, and I have enough room in the coop to section part of it off for that purpose, too, but having sectioned off outdoor space as well is so nice! I can give the separated chicken outdoor time where she's within sight of the flock, but they can't get to her. So she's not trapped in a crate all day. I recently had an injured hen who took a week to heal, and she would've been miserable trapped in a cage for a whole week. It's not the end of the world, I know, and she would've survived just fine, but I like to make my chickens comfortable and happy whenever I can. She was pacing back and forth along the wire in the crate looking restless, so why not spare her some of that stress. She was happy to scratch around in the run partition and to see her friends.

When I'm not using the partition to separate anybody, I leave its door open so the flock has access to that part of the run. So the space isn't wasted when not in use.

In conclusion: this method works great for breaking broodies, but also, everybody should have a run partition because they are versatile and useful for many things! I may go even further and cut a second pop door on the side of the run partition, which would connect to the part of the coop that I section off for separated chickens, and then the separated chicken will have free access to both the indoor and the outdoor partitioned area, but out of reach of the flock, and I won't have to carry her in and out by hand every morning and evening.

Here's my injured hen hanging out in the partition, with the flock looking on:

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