Oh, sorry, I was just trying to clarify... I was hoping for advice on how to make this a successful hatch, and your advice is appreciated and I will take it to heart. I was thinking there was still hope if the eggs were indeed fertile, but now I'm thinking you guys don't think there's really any hope for that this year. I also didn't really think about the fact that she's had the last 8 days to make something happen with the original 4 eggs... is that a factor? She had stopped laying, I just realized that this afternoon when I was jotting down the dates, that I was only getting 2 new eggs a day for the last 3 days. I thought she was waiting for more so she could brood them all at the same time. I should mention I have daughters who are 6 years old and 3 years old and I got a little carried away by their excitement about ducklings in the next few weeks. ;-)