Aggressive Toms

[chooks4life]

Quote: Lol, yes we are behind the times in many areas, but ahead in some others too...

Dyslexia (as an english teacher I'm sure you understand the root derivatives behind that word) is different from Dyscalculia, even though it's sometimes called 'numerical dyslexia'. Most people who can't do the math can do the english and most people who can't do the english can do the math. Almost overnight it seems there is a burgeoning movement of awareness and assistance for this disorder.
Quote: I do!

I've heard it's got a lot of Latin, Spanish, French and a smattering of many other languages in it. I want to learn a few languages including Latin as this underpins so much of our 'bastardized' language and many others as well. I have medical textbooks that very handily offer the Latin root words behind the names used in medicine, and it's really all just glorified baby-talk in terms of structure. If more people knew Latin they wouldn't be so befuddled by doctorspeak, it's mostly long words used to say small things when it comes to disease names etc. lol.

 

[livininbrazil]

Lol, yes we are behind the times in many areas, but ahead in some others too...

Dyslexia (as an english teacher I'm sure you understand the root derivatives behind that word) is different from Dyscalculia, even though it's sometimes called 'numerical dyslexia'. Most people who can't do the math can do the english and most people who can't do the english can do the math. Almost overnight it seems there is a burgeoning movement of awareness and assistance for this disorder.

It´s great that it´s being recognised now.
Of course, my experience is from 20+ years ago, and it was all included in "dyslexia"..not being able to tell the time on a clock face, not being able to tie shoe laces, not being able to recall the times table, etc...that´s what makes them appear stupid, and it affects their whole life. In the school I had one daughter who was ace at maths and physics, and the other one who´d go over and over the times table on her way to school ( I remember it so well, poor little soul), then by the time her test came she´d forgotten it. If she got 8 out of 20 she was doing well. I kept some of her stories that she wrote when she was small and now she laughs at her spelling...but you know, the interesting thing is that she can still read the stories, she knows what she´d written, and I can´t tell what the word is!

I like history, and find the history of England very interesting... the various tribes of the Britons, the invasions of various (European) tribes and peoples with their languages, each time bringing changes. There are huge influences, obviously Latin and French, German, Greek, etc, then Flemmish, and the old 'English' some of which is from the celtic tribes that lived there before......the gaelic, some words of which are still used in local areas, especially in the north and Scotland and Wales.

And in Australia, different words are being introduced...sometimes we have a laugh in the lessons when I teach the Brazilians how to say the coloquial for, for instance, 'toilet' in England, then the US, and Australia... it adds to the fun!

Here I have friends from Bulgaria, Hungary, Holland, Germany, etc, and of course portuguese-speakers and we have very interesting conversations about language and how it´s changed...even a word that looks the same in one language can have a different meaning in another, just because time has changed it... 'esquisito' in portuguese, (which should be 'exquisite' in English) means 'strange', for example...but in Italian it has the same meaning as in English. There are many like that.
All fascinating stuff.

 

[callieisspooky]

Interesting about dyscalculia. Had never heard of it before. For years I tutored at a school for dyslexic children K-12. I thought I had heard of all the variations of learning disabilities! I am not dyslexic, just close with teachers at the school.

Back to OP… my tom is now acting aggressively toward my son, age three. Sigh. He used to be so sweet, my tom. He chases anyone who gets near me. I've finally integrated him with the bully female turkey, and I hope he will shift his allegiances somewhat so that my son can be near me, though maybe not the female turkey.

 

[chknoodles]

I read an article that said put something BIGGER in the pen, like a goat, and that an aggressive bird will figure out it isn't on the top of the pecking order any more...of course, it helps if you HAVE a goat...LOL.

 

[chooks4life]

You'd also need an aggressive goat for that to work. We had chickens that bullied goats before. I favor the axe method personally, because there's an enormous amount of power behind a rooster's spur, never mind a turkey's. When they attack they frequently choose a moment when the person is bending down or otherwise vulnerable, and they tend to go for the face and eyes. I am not a fan of taking chances, not when there are so many non violent males out there to breed from.

About dyscalculia, as far as I know it's a recently coined word for an old issue. Until pretty recently in Australia, the teachers at any school we tried for my dyslexic siblings would roll their eyes and scoff at the very notion of dyslexia. Dyscalculia's got a long way to go before it's properly recognized and supported here.

 

[callieisspooky]

Well, "dyslexia" is a general term people use to encompass many types of learning disabilities, which come in many forms. That there is a difficulty for some to interpret numbers doesn't surprise me in the least. We are fortunate I suppose that the US is such a "PC" nation in that it has allowed us to not only gain acceptance for disabilities of all forms, such as learning disabilities, but also to create schools (albeit private ones) dedicated solely to those with learning disabilities, coined under the generalized term "dyslexic". There are different categories within that term and as a layperson I understand only that there are three major types of "learners" (tactile, visual, auditory) but the differences spiral like fractals from there. Some cannot organize thoughts, some shift letters/numbers, some shift whole ideas or pieces of ideas almost like mixing up phrases in a sentence. Some cannot keep track of time, whole thought processes do not make sense, logical progression of ideas is impossible. It is incredibly fascinating. Like I said, I don't understand the different classifications, but I don't think I'm alone in that, not even in the company of most experts in the field.

As for goats, I own two. I don't think I want to subject the turkeys to them, however. One misstep and my turkey could be trampled/break a leg. My goats are nimble, but feisty. And fat. I hope Tom will mellow toward my son once he bonds with a turkey instead of with me. If not, I'll put a fence in separating the forage area from the people area.

 

[chooks4life]

Dyslexia is indeed often used as a general term but because of the root of the word -lexia it would more correctly apply to language based areas. But 'dyscalculia' is a cumbersome word indeed. Plenty of people with language issues are fine with the numbers and the reverse is also true so it's perhaps worth making the definition, though I'm not saying you have to of course.

 

[recinda]

I have three toms and one hen, one of the toms was supposed to be a hen, but it turned out she was a he. That one is a royal palm white turkey. Does anyone know if it's ok to cull an older turkey tom? He is about 10 months old now. Also, anyone eat royal palm before? Is it worth processing?
Thanks!

 

[R2elk]

I have three toms and one hen, one of the toms was supposed to be a hen, but it turned out she was a he. That one is a royal palm white turkey. Does anyone know if it's ok to cull an older turkey tom? He is about 10 months old now. Also, anyone eat royal palm before? Is it worth processing?
Thanks!

Ten months is not an older turkey and he is very much worth processing. However 2 toms is still one too many for having just one hen. I recommend that you either process two of the toms or during breeding season separate the hen and one tom from the others. Once the hen is ready to start setting on her nest remove the tom from the area so she can sit in peace.

 

[recinda]

Ten months is not an older turkey and he is very much worth processing. However 2 toms is still one too many for having just one hen. I recommend that you either process two of the toms or during breeding season separate the hen and one tom from the others. Once the hen is ready to start setting on her nest remove the tom from the area so she can sit in peace.

Thanks for your answer, that is exactly what I wanted to do, just have to get the guts to get it done. This will be the first "harvest" from the homesteading experience, not counting eggs. Now I'm looking for stockpots for processing. Any idea what a minimum size would be? I am looking at a 40 quart.