air sac problem on dibiliated neurological hen

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by islandchicken, Aug 13, 2011.

  1. islandchicken

    islandchicken Out Of The Brooder

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    Apr 19, 2009
    I took in a feral hen (I rehab mainly wild birds) who was seen having what looked like a neurological problem. I am not so sure about that, but the bird was weak enough to be catch-able. What I do notice is that is that the hen has a very large lump (bigger than a ping-pong ball) on the right front near the crop. At first I thought it was a tumor or infection, but when I expressed it, just air came out. (Of course, the air bubble keeps coming back up). The really odd thing is, when I do express the air all the way, it sounds as if I can hear air gurgling into the crop. I have no idea what is going on, and no real history about the bird except that is was seen around for quite awhile with other feral birds, but very recently appeared to be walking, then stopping and staring off at the ground. I do know the bird is very dehydrated. I just don't think an regular air sac rupture would have left her in such bad condition. I am wondering if the "condition" has led to this bubble problem.

    I have sub-Qed her, and she has perked up. However, she is not yet eating or drinking on her own, possibly because of discomfort/pressure caused by that bubble. I have started her on baytril, and also began a 4 in 1 medication (cocci, worming, etc) that is used for pigeons. Has anyone ever seen an air bubble that seems to actually go into part of the crop (air exiting in the crop)? The bird does not have any external injuries (except minor scrapes where a rooster was picking on her head when she was down).

    Thanks so much.

    Phyllis, Island Birder
     
  2. ChickLover98

    ChickLover98 The Chicken Princess

    Apr 24, 2010
    Pennsylvania
    I have never heard of this, but hopefully someone else with more experience can help. Good luck, and keep us updated! [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2011
  3. sred98

    sred98 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jan 18, 2008
    Oklahoma
    I had to deal with this on a goose of mine, but it was all over. I'd worry that her crop is ruptured, as well. The main thing that I found helped deflating the sub Q emphysema was using a larger gauge needle. I was trying to use a smaller one to keep it comfortable, and it closed up too quickly. Use at least an 18 g needle if she's a larger hen. I think I used a 16 on the goose. I'd have to go back and look for my old post. Then deflate as much as possible, pressing firmly on the surrounding area. Once all the hissing has stopped, keep pressure on for a little longer to be sure the skin sticks to the fascia. Also, you're probably already doing this, but make sure you go in at an angle, not straight in.

    Be sure and restrict activity. Put her in something like a small cat carrier. Any movement can reopen it it heals quickly once you figure it out. You might need to put a wrap on in between treatments. I used the flexible self-adhering bandage. I forgot the name. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about!

    Good luck!

    Shelly

    P. S. - you can do a search on her for deflating subcutaneous emphysema and find my old post if you want.
     

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