Am I just naive or in denial ???????

What breed are the ones being picked on and what breed are the aggressors? A lot of people have mixed flocks of different breeds, but they don't always work, especially as the chickens mature. Some breeds are more docile and some are much more aggressive. Some chickens really don't like other chickens that look different, although most could care less.

Sometimes, it's just that particular individuals are a problem. Chickens that are very aggressive mixed with chickens that are very passive is always trouble.

There are different things you can do to try to help the situation, but sometimes, somebody just has to go. More space to get away from bullies and places to hide helps. More activities to keep chickens occupied helps. If they have anything physical stressing them, like biting parasites or if it's too hot, that can make them more cranky. It's always good to look at their diet and make sure they are getting enough protein and salt, as deficiencies can cause picking. This shouldn't be a problem with a commercial feed, but some people are mixing their own or adding a lot of other foods. Adding more feeders and waterers, so there isn't a territorial thing going over eating and drinking helps. I think last year one of the forum members used one of those rings on an aggressive chicken, that prevents the chicken from closing it's beak all the way. She could still drink and scoop up food, but couldn't bite anyone. I would probably try that after the other things, myself.

How long ago did you combine these age groups and how long has this been going on? Have there been any other changes for this group, having to do with either their care or any losses?

 

People always say BO's are docile and usually picked on but I have a young BO roo that picks on all of my RIR pullets and hens. I was thinking about keeping him as he's the 2nd nicest looking roo out of the bunch(6 roos outta 6 purchased ) but with that ornery streak, he'll probably end up as dinner very soon.

 

They would be getting salt from their crumbles. Since you are giving them a prepared feed, it should have what they need in it.

I have heard that some wyandottes are more aggressive. Not all. Many are not. I think it just depends on the strain. They are a good breed for my climate, but since they've been the aggressors in a few flocks I've known of with pecking problems, I've stayed away from them. This is mainly because some of my most favorite breeds, that I will always want to keep, have very docile and gentle temperaments. I really have a thing for Dorkings and Faverolles, although I also love Buff Orpingtons, partridge rocks and Australorps. Not exactly the bad boys (Or girls!) of the chicken world. It is their very sweetness that melts my heart, but it does make them more of a target.

When you lost your older hen a month ago, it disrupted the flock's pecking order. Any time you add or subtract birds to the flock, it affects the pecking order. It's interesting that the problem with the buff Orpington getting picked on, started around the same time you lost your older hen. What you are describing with her sounds kind of bad. I can understand why you posted, especially since it's been going on for a month. I would keep a close eye on her for the moment, to make sure it doesn't escalate to more serious damage. If it does, please remove her right away, to protect her.

I'm not sure why this started the month before you lost your older hen, but it does sound like it might be getting worse, instead of better. How do you think it's been going, compared to two weeks ago? Do you think it's about the same or getting worse?

I'd really be interested in what others think about this situation.

 

Quote:I would say both....naive and in denial! My hens establish a new pecking order, it seems, every week. I guess that's why we have expressions like....pecking order, rule the roost, henpecked, cock of the walk, fussy as an old hen, etc.

 

Another trick you may try is to use a squirt gun on the aggressors. This will entail more of your time, spending it with the flock. :| If the hens know that you are the 'alpha female', then it will be easier to establish some order.
A drastic measure would be to curtail the feeding times. Bring out the crumbles and give it first to the Buff and Deleware. When the two girls are through eating, let the others come feed. If you see any bullying, let them have it with the squirt gun, give a loud bark "NO!", or use your foot to separate the hens.
You want to establish a negative Pavlovian response.

Just a thought..... crumbles are easier to eat than mash, so take less time. If your hens spend more time eating, then they may not have as much time to bully.

Good luck with it all! Let us know how things go.

Carla

 

I just added my three little ones (2 australorps and one BO) and my silver laced wyandotte is one of the nicer ones of the bunch. My cochins are very sweet to them too... The wyandotte does peck a little at them but nothing like the others are doing. It's been two days, I do put them in a kennel at night for their safety until I can see that they are all getting along a little more! My sex link is the meanie of the bunch...EE right behind her. I hope yours do better in time! I know it's so hard watching others getting picked on!

Carla! GReat idea with the squirt gun! I'm going to try that one!

 

My SLW gets picked on my the head honcho...a light brahma. I spent about an hour with a broom stick in my hand and each stime Light Brahma went after SLW I shook the stick at the Brahma...she got the idea and has left SLW alone. My flocks is mixed... I have 1 light brahma, 1 NHR, 1 SLW, 1 Ameraucana and 2 BA's in that group...they are about to get 5 BAs added to the group so we will see how that goes next month.