Ameraucana Color Project, advices?

[WolfLady]

Hi!

I have 2 projects I would like advices about.

I lovely pure Ameraucana of several lines and colors, currently White, Wheaten, Lavender, Silver, BBS, BBS Split Lavender. If the person doesn't push me further again, I may have Fibromelanistic Ameraucana as well by this summer (I know, not a recognized color, but the fibro has been multi-generational bred in their line and they do look like true Ameraucana).

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1rst Project:

For fun, I would like to "create" my own variety of colors into Ameraucana. I have 3 mains colors I'm looking to introduce by crossbreeding, then breeding back:
- Mosaic
- Swedish Flower
- Silver-Laced Orpington

I'm not much familar with the color genetic behind the breeds I'm looking to cross for their color. With which variety of my pure Ameraucana should each color be bred for the best possible outcome? Of course, I plan to keep the best chicks and rehome the unwanted ones as EE, keeper chicks to be bred back to Ameraucana and so on until I have a consistent result.

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2nd Project:

I know it's something that likely has been tried already, but I wondered how it would be doable to make autosexing Ameraucana? With the colors I own (stated at the beginning), except by mixing with Barred, is there other option that could give similar outcome without "ruining" the original color? By that I mean, for example, female being blue and male being black?

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Thank you for your time!

 

[LadiesAndJane]

Sounds like some ambitious and cool projects you are starting. Will likely take several generations. There are some here on BYC working on cuckoo ameraucanas that I am aware of. I have no real useful advice, other than good luck with it.

 

[WolfLady]

@LadiesAndJane It'll definitely take a while, thought I have so much time since I'm full time home due to disability. I hope I'll be able to reach one of my project

Thank you!

 

[ColtHandorf]

For fun, I would like to "create" my own variety of colors into Ameraucana. I have 3 mains colors I'm looking to introduce by crossbreeding, then breeding back:
- Mosaic
- Swedish Flower
- Silver-Laced Orpington

I'm not much familar with the color genetic behind the breeds I'm looking to cross for their color. With which variety of my pure Ameraucana should each color be bred for the best possible outcome? Of course, I plan to keep the best chicks and rehome the unwanted ones as EE, keeper chicks to be bred back to Ameraucana and so on until I have a consistent result.

Sounds interesting. Silver-laced would probably be the easiest color pattern to introduce, but getting leg color, egg color, and type fixed again might be a bit of a headache. I'm currently working on BBS Silver-laced Orpingtons and started the project by crossing Silver-laced to BBS Orpingtons.

@The Moonshiner, @nicalandia, and @Amer, are all really good with genetics and maybe they can help.

 

[Amer]

For fun, I would like to "create" my own variety of colors into Ameraucana. I have 3 mains colors I'm looking to introduce by crossbreeding, then breeding back:
- Mosaic
- Swedish Flower
- Silver-Laced Orpington

I'm not much familar with the color genetic behind the breeds I'm looking to cross for their color. With which variety of my pure Ameraucana should each color be bred for the best possible outcome? Of course, I plan to keep the best chicks and rehome the unwanted ones as EE, keeper chicks to be bred back to Ameraucana and so on until I have a consistent result.

Mosaic and Swedish Flower Hen aren’t colors. Once you cross a landrace breed, it’s not anything.
So, silver laced is the only choice.
Breed with your silver pick the best laced individuals (with the best Ameraucana, and work from there.
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2nd Project:

I know it's something that likely has been tried already, but I wondered how it would be doable to make autosexing Ameraucana? With the colors I own (stated at the beginning), except by mixing with Barred, is there other option that could give similar outcome without "ruining" the original color? By that I mean, for example, female being blue and male being black?

No. All autosexing breeds have barring and are one color. Also, blue isn’t a sexlinked gene, it’s incompletely dominant so even sexlinkage wouldn’t work.
I do know someone who did this project before though. Very attractive little birds.
Using a Bielfelder and a silver Ameracauna would be easiest. That’s what she did.
I guess you could make autosexing white Ameracaunas. But this would involve not only adding the crele pattern, but also recessive white on top of it, since the Ameraucana white is dominant white which wouldn’t work for autosexing.

 

[WolfLady]

Thank you all for the advices, it's really appreciated!

 

[Cattle dog Mom]

Hi!

I have 2 projects I would like advices about.

I lovely pure Ameraucana of several lines and colors, currently White, Wheaten, Lavender, Silver, BBS, BBS Split Lavender. If the person doesn't push me further again, I may have Fibromelanistic Ameraucana as well by this summer (I know, not a recognized color, but the fibro has been multi-generational bred in their line and they do look like true Ameraucana).

---

1rst Project:

For fun, I would like to "create" my own variety of colors into Ameraucana. I have 3 mains colors I'm looking to introduce by crossbreeding, then breeding back:
- Mosaic
- Swedish Flower
- Silver-Laced Orpington

I'm not much familar with the color genetic behind the breeds I'm looking to cross for their color. With which variety of my pure Ameraucana should each color be bred for the best possible outcome? Of course, I plan to keep the best chicks and rehome the unwanted ones as EE, keeper chicks to be bred back to Ameraucana and so on until I have a consistent result.

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2nd Project:

I know it's something that likely has been tried already, but I wondered how it would be doable to make autosexing Ameraucana? With the colors I own (stated at the beginning), except by mixing with Barred, is there other option that could give similar outcome without "ruining" the original color? By that I mean, for example, female being blue and male being black?

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Thank you for your time!

As was said, Swedish flower isn't a color, that breed comes in all colors. But what about speckled instead. (Which is similar) Like a speckled sussex.

 

[WolfLady]

@Pencilled Palm I worded it wrong, what I mean was use those breeds to add their colors/patterns into ameraucana. I know Swedish Flower isn't a color, but I want to use that breed for their flowery speckled color. Hope it makes more sense.

 

[Cattle dog Mom]

@Pencilled Palm I worded it wrong, what I mean was use those breeds to add their colors/patterns into ameraucana. I know Swedish Flower isn't a color, but I want to use that breed for their flowery speckled color. Hope it makes more sense.

I figured you wanted to use them for their color. But they also come in pretty much every color. (They don't all have the correct "flowered" color. Course if you were starting with older birds, you would know what color they are.

 

[WolfLady]

@Pencilled Palm Yes I plan to buy hens or roos of the specific color I want to avoid guessing on chicks and be disappointed (knowing myself, I would probably want to keep them all lol)