Ameraucana Color Project, advices?

[Cattle dog Mom]

@Pencilled Palm Yes I plan to buy hens or roos of the specific color I want to avoid guessing on chicks and be disappointed (knowing myself, I would probably want to keep them all lol)

It will be interesting to see how it goes. Since a straight Ameraucana is homozygous for solid color. I would think that the first generation will be pretty solid (darker than the "colored" parent.) Then having to cross that back on a solid color..... Can't wait to see what you get! And then of course there is the whole comb issue. LOL

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

For silver laced, crossing to black (and/or blue, splash, and lavender, if you want silver lacing on one of those base colors) would be the most straightforward. You may not get any laced chicks in the first generation, but breeding them together or back to laced would get some laced or partially laced offspring.
Assuming that you would be breeding for a varied appearance with the Swedish flower coloring, using buff or wheaten in the cross would work best. Buff would be my first choice, but if you only have wheaten it should do. Keep in mind that mottling (the white spots seen on many Swedish flowers) is a recessive gene and will not show up in the first generation, like lavender. Breeding the offspring together or back to a mottled bird will produce more mottling.
The mosaic coloration is definitely mixed. As far as I can tell, it’s silver columbian or silver duckwing with a lot of autosomal red. Autosomal red is non-sexlinked red, which is how it can show up on a bird that’s pure for sex-linked silver. Using buff (which is basically restricted buff columbian) and/or silver (aka silver duckwing) would bring in those colors the best. Silver duckwing would cause you to lose some of the autosomal red, though.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

For fun, I would like to "create" my own variety of colors into Ameraucana. I have 3 mains colors I'm looking to introduce by crossbreeding, then breeding back:
- Mosaic
- Swedish Flower
- Silver-Laced Orpington

I'm not much familar with the color genetic behind the breeds I'm looking to cross for their color. With which variety of my pure Ameraucana should each color be bred for the best possible outcome? Of course, I plan to keep the best chicks and rehome the unwanted ones as EE, keeper chicks to be bred back to Ameraucana and so on until I have a consistent result.

Mosaic and Swedish Flower Hen aren’t colors. Once you cross a landrace breed, it’s not anything.
So, silver laced is the only choice.
Breed with your silver pick the best laced individuals (with the best Ameraucana, and work from there.
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2nd Project:

I know it's something that likely has been tried already, but I wondered how it would be doable to make autosexing Ameraucana? With the colors I own (stated at the beginning), except by mixing with Barred, is there other option that could give similar outcome without "ruining" the original color? By that I mean, for example, female being blue and male being black?

No. All autosexing breeds have barring and are one color. Also, blue isn’t a sexlinked gene, it’s incompletely dominant so even sexlinkage wouldn’t work.
I do know someone who did this project before though. Very attractive little birds.
Using a Bielfelder and a silver Ameracauna would be easiest. That’s what she did.
I guess you could make autosexing white Ameracaunas. But this would involve not only adding the crele pattern, but also recessive white on top of it, since the Ameraucana white is dominant white which wouldn’t work for autosexing.

You can make autosexing whites? How does that work?

 

[Amer]

You can make autosexing whites? How does that work?

“Frost” Legbars are autosexing. Recessive white still shows the pattern underneath on the down... Not 100 percent sure how.

(Pic from google)

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

“Frost” Legbars are autosexing. Recessive white still shows the pattern underneath on the down... Not 100 percent sure how. View attachment 2521148 (Pic from google)

Huh, that’s pretty neat. I wonder why it does that.

 

[WolfLady]

@Pencilled Palm It will definitely be a project over time, I'll share here when it'll be started and how it goes

@RoostersAreAwesome Thank you for the advices, I'll definitely keep that in mind

 

[EmmaRainboe]

Super interested. Do keep us updated.

 

[Cattle dog Mom]

@Pencilled Palm It will definitely be a project over time, I'll share here when it'll be started and how it goes

 

[Amer]

Huh, that’s pretty neat. I wonder why it does that.

It’s basically crele but with recessive white. Interesting because it could potentially be introduced to other white breeds.

 

[Alex_Zurago]

For fun, I would like to "create" my own variety of colors into Ameraucana. I have 3 mains colors I'm looking to introduce by crossbreeding, then breeding back:
- Mosaic
- Swedish Flower
- Silver-Laced Orpington

I'm not much familar with the color genetic behind the breeds I'm looking to cross for their color. With which variety of my pure Ameraucana should each color be bred for the best possible outcome? Of course, I plan to keep the best chicks and rehome the unwanted ones as EE, keeper chicks to be bred back to Ameraucana and so on until I have a consistent result.

Mosaic and Swedish Flower Hen aren’t colors. Once you cross a landrace breed, it’s not anything.
So, silver laced is the only choice.
Breed with your silver pick the best laced individuals (with the best Ameraucana, and work from there.
---

2nd Project:

I know it's something that likely has been tried already, but I wondered how it would be doable to make autosexing Ameraucana? With the colors I own (stated at the beginning), except by mixing with Barred, is there other option that could give similar outcome without "ruining" the original color? By that I mean, for example, female being blue and male being black?

No. All autosexing breeds have barring and are one color. Also, blue isn’t a sexlinked gene, it’s incompletely dominant so even sexlinkage wouldn’t work.
I do know someone who did this project before though. Very attractive little birds.
Using a Bielfelder and a silver Ameracauna would be easiest. That’s what she did.
I guess you could make autosexing white Ameracaunas. But this would involve not only adding the crele pattern, but also recessive white on top of it, since the Ameraucana white is dominant white which wouldn’t work for autosexing.

You could try using Ayam cemanis to produce sex linkage there was a post a while back with details. Dk if it will work but it's worth a shot