Ameraucana or easter egger?

[hdowden]

Ameraucana's and Araucana's are the same just different names and they are Pure bred but EE's and Americana's are the mutts like you said any bird that has the colourd egg gene just different names. I thought the White might have been Wheaten but you don't think so???

they are not the same. both breeds have their own standards. ameraucana are tailed and come with a beard and muffs while the araucana are tuffed and tailless and come in more colors than the ameraucana

According to the American Poultry Association (APA), the Araucana breed must be rumpless (no tail) and have ear tufts. Ear tufts are clumps of feathers growing from small tabs of skin usually found at or near the region of the ear openings. This feature is unique in the U.S. to the Araucana breed. This trait is nearly always lethal to unhatched chicks when inherited from both parents. Tufted Araucanas, therefore, are always genetically impure, i.e., they don't breed true and will always produce a percentage of "clean-faced" offspring.
The Ameraucana breed, on the other hand, has a tail and sports muffs and beard in the facial area. These characteristics are true-breeding. Other requirements of both breeds may be found in the APA's Standard of Perfection and in the American Bantam Association's (ABA) Bantam Standard.

she looks wheaten based but not 100% and her legs do not look slate in color, looks closer to blue wheaten. heres wheaten.

blue wheaten

 

[cluckcluckluke]

they are not the same. both breeds have their own standards. ameraucana are tailed and come with a beard and muffs while the araucana are tuffed and tailless and come in more colors than the ameraucana

According to the American Poultry Association (APA), the Araucana breed must be rumpless (no tail) and have ear tufts. Ear tufts are clumps of feathers growing from small tabs of skin usually found at or near the region of the ear openings. This feature is unique in the U.S. to the Araucana breed. This trait is nearly always lethal to unhatched chicks when inherited from both parents. Tufted Araucanas, therefore, are always genetically impure, i.e., they don't breed true and will always produce a percentage of "clean-faced" offspring.



The Ameraucana breed, on the other hand, has a tail and sports muffs and beard in the facial area. These characteristics are true-breeding. Other requirements of both breeds may be found in the APA's Standard of Perfection and in the American Bantam Association's (ABA) Bantam Standard.

she looks wheaten based but not 100% and her legs do not look slate in color, looks closer to blue wheaten. heres wheaten.

blue wheaten

O.K yeah Ameraucan's are PB but Araucana's are rumples but over here In Australia the standard allows Araucana's to have tail so our Araucana is your Ameraucan but I'm sure we have True Araucana's (rumples) over here aswell but they may have different muffs and beards etc.

 

[my sunwolf]

And OP's birds are 100% Easter Egger.

 

[WalkingOnSunshine]

And OP's birds are 100% Easter Egger.

X 2.

To reiterate:
Ameraucanas and Araucanas are different breeds with different standards. At least in the States, Araucanas are rumpless and tufted, while Ameraucanas are muffed and have tails. Both Ameraucanas and Araucanas must lay blue eggs--a green egg means an EE. Ameraucanas come in only a few recognized colors, and have slate legs. You will not get a true Ameraucana or Araucana from a hatchery. If you bought from a hatchery, you have an EE.

EEs are mutt chickens that carry the blue egg gene. They can lay any color of egg, with blue and green being most prevalent. They can be any color and have any temperament, because they're mutts. Many hatcheries, feed stores, and farm stores sell EEs as Ameraucanas or Aracaunas, but that doesn't make them meet the criteria for those breeds. They might also be labeled "Americauna" but I don't think anyone really uses that name much and I've always taken it as a misspelling.

I have both Ameraucanas and EEs. EEs are awesome birds. They are pretty and fun and lay lovely eggs. No shame in that.

 

[Nature Gurl]

Awesome! Thanks so much for clarifying! I couldn't really see much physical difference between the EE's and the Ameraucana's. And of course the breeder I got them from said they were Ameraucana's. There's seems to be some confusion between the 2 to the untrained eye. But it makes sence about the colouring! Very good information!

 

[WalkingOnSunshine]

Awesome! Thanks so much for clarifying! I couldn't really see much physical difference between the EE's and the Ameraucana's. And of course the breeder I got them from said they were Ameraucana's. There's seems to be some confusion between the 2 to the untrained eye. But it makes sence about the colouring! Very good information!

Oh, it gets even more confusing. It's technically possible to breed one pure Ameraucana to another pure Ameraucana and get birds that are EEs if you're being very specific, since you can get non-standard colors, especially in color breeding projects where you get breakthrough coloring.

Chicken breeds drive me nuts. I breed a Saddlebred horse to a Saddlebred horse, I have a Saddlebred horse, not a Clydesdale, no matter what the foal looks like. But a chicken has to follow the breed standard to be considered that breed, no matter what it's parentage is. I suppose that means that I could breed an EE, mixing an Ameraucana and, say, a white Leghorn, but if the resulting hen meets the standard it can be shown as an Ameraucana, even though it's really only half...argh.

Your birds however, are clearly EE. They have very typical EE color patterns. I have one that could be a twin of your "wheaten" bird and she came from Murray McMurray Hatchery.

 

[hdowden]

Oh, it gets even more confusing. It's technically possible to breed one pure Ameraucana to another pure Ameraucana and get birds that are EEs if you're being very specific, since you can get non-standard colors, especially in color breeding projects where you get breakthrough coloring.

Chicken breeds drive me nuts. I breed a Saddlebred horse to a Saddlebred horse, I have a Saddlebred horse, not a Clydesdale, no matter what the foal looks like. But a chicken has to follow the breed standard to be considered that breed, no matter what it's parentage is. I suppose that means that I could breed an EE, mixing an Ameraucana and, say, a white Leghorn, but if the resulting hen meets the standard it can be shown as an Ameraucana, even though it's really only half...argh.

Your birds however, are clearly EE. They have very typical EE color patterns. I have one that could be a twin of your "wheaten" bird and she came from Murray McMurray Hatchery.

to make it even worse any other breed of chicken breed together (ex: bb red oegb x fawn oegb) is still an oegb but of mixed colors..........

most ee's will also have green legs to boot

 

[goldfinches]

Ameraucana's and Araucana's are the same just different names and they are Pure bred but EE's and Americana's are the mutts like you said any bird that has the colourd egg gene just different names. I thought the White might have been Wheaten but you don't think so???

What?

Oh, I see you're saying they're the same because you're in Australia.

(I think Americana is just someone misspelling Ameraucana)

 

[WalkingOnSunshine]

What?

Oh, I see you're saying they're the same because you're in Australia.

(I think Americana is just someone misspelling Ameraucana)

A bird seller spelling Ameraucana "Americana" is pretty much a sure sign that it's someone with EEs, not Ameraucanas.

 

[cluckcluckluke]

What?

Oh, I see you're saying they're the same because you're in Australia.

(I think Americana is just someone misspelling Ameraucana)

Yeah I only see a few people say Americana, I think they get it confused which confuses everyone else (me)