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[Illia]

Okay, so slow down. . .

These are EE's, yes, but, - What makes them so? They have Wheaten in them, but what else? That will really help me. If I'm reading right you're crossing EE and Wheaten Ameraucana? Or something else? I'm lost.

Wheaten is simply E^Wh (wheaten) and the gold gene.

Buff is E^Wh, (wheaten) as well as Columbian, Dark-Brown, and (theoretical) Mahogany, Dilute, Dun, and Gold.


Wheaten is indeed recessive to certain E locus such as E/E (solid black, blue, splash, dun, chocolate, or lavender) and makes a mock-brown red color, same as when it is crossed with Brown-Red itself. (E^R)

Wheaten crossed with Duckwing (what most Easter Eggers carry) create a sort of mix between the two, really.

Wheaten and Partridge create another EE-like color.


Reading your post over, sounds like you crossed a Golden Duckwing male over some Wheaten Am's correct? Wheaten and Duckwing, not sure what is dominant over what, but the Wheaten does indeed take more influence. The offspring will have duckwing-esque necks but Wheaten/Buff like bodies.

 

[Bravo]

Alright,

The EE hens are F2's from White Leghorns bred to an EE rooster (silver duckwing) who is homozygous blue. The F1 progeny was bred back to their father (the EE roo) resulting in F2's of which, half homozygous and half heterozygous for the blue egg gene. I've culled based on egg color and have only kept the hens with the darkest blue eggs, which should be my homozygous girls. (Their feather coloration ranges from white to black (and everything in between).

For the F3's I've taken a my pure BW AM roo and crossed him to the F2 EE hens above. The resulting progeny (F3's) are the ones that all exhibit sexual dimorphism in feather coloration, resembling that of a BW.



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[Bravo]

Since my mind works better when I visualize pedigrees, maybe this is more helpful:


BW Am Roo
F3 Progeny____|
| EE Roo: Silver Duckwing (P1)
F2 Progeny______|
| EE Roo: Silver Duckwing (P1)
F1 Progeny_______________|
|
White Leghorns (P1)

The F3 progeny are the birds that have taken on the BW characteristics and can be feather sexed.







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[jeremy]

A friend of mine who hatched eggs from me this year just showed me this picture of one of the resulting pullets...

Sorry about the blurry image, they're going to work on getting a clearer shot, but what is with this pullet's color?

She almost looks like she is Wheaten but with Blue Mottling???

She is from pure parents, both Blue Wheaten Ameraucanas... this is the first and only person who has reported back to me with a bird that doesn't look creamy Wheaten all over like the standard calls for.
Is this just a poorly colored bird or is there something else going on here? I'm frightened and intrigued at the same time...

 

[pips&peeps]

I wonder if she is having some hormonal issues. John B had a silver bird that feathered out with black feathers all speckled out like that like it was feathering with the male hormonal feathers and the female feathers at the same time. This would explain why she has blue everywhere. Can you get a clearer shot of her?

MAYBE ITS FROM THE SOY IN OUR FEED...............................

I would love to see it's saddle and hackle area.

 

[Goose and Fig]

I had a faverolle do that when she was younger. She finished out just like the rest of them- you'd never know now. Still- she's really cool looking Jeremy!

 

[pips&peeps]

Here is a couple pictures of John's weird silver from a couple years back:

 

[SteveH]

pips&peeps :

MAYBE ITS FROM THE SOY IN OUR FEED...............................

Nah, I eat alot of food with soy in it, and have never developed any strange colored feathers.

 

[jeremy]

pips&peeps :

I would love to see it's saddle and hackle area.

Jean, are you thinking it's an over colored Blue Wheaten male then? With excessive wheat color where it should be blue?​

 

[Illia]

pips&peeps :

Here is a couple pictures of John's weird silver from a couple years back:

http://www.ameraucana.org/abcforum/index.php?a=topic&s=attach&id=579
http://www.ameraucana.org/abcforum/index.php?a=topic&s=attach&id=582
http://www.ameraucana.org/abcforum/index.php?a=topic&s=attach&id=580

Jean that isn't just a weird winged female, look at the back.

I see silver saddle feathers. How old was the bird in the photos? Did she end up laying eggs? Perhaps she's a he-she?​