Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[MrsBachbach]

She is 22 with a permanent migraine for the last 8.5 years therefore unable to live on her own. I am pretty sure she knows about male hatchery chicks, the percentage of hatched eggs that are statistically male and chooses to ignore/not think about it. A degree of separation from the actual facts of life for male chicks since she doesn't 'know' them. If not, I'm sure not going to tell her or I won't ever see another pullet to get fresh eggs from healthy and happy hens.

On the other hand, she won't eat anything that an animal had to die to provide including gelatin even KNOWING that the gelatin is not the reason the animal was raised and using it is more "not wasting" than a "farmed" product.

I agree with you. Unless you are going to be vegan, is it not better to raise the cockerels for dinner than destroy them at a day old? Certainly no chicken raised here could want for a better life ... fancier digs maybe but these chickens are a pretty spoiled bunch. BOSS and kitchen scraps every morning, scratch before roost time, a coop with > 30 feet of roost at 4' high, an indoor run with about 40 sq/ft per bird (I currently have 16) and as much yard and field time and space as they care to have every day of the week year round. These girls are so spoiled that they complain when they are confined to (and escape) the barnyard of ~720 sq ft/bird. Hatched and ground or hatched and raised with the potential to live many years as the father of future hens either here or elsewhere and yes the possibility (probability for most) they may become dinner? I think most of us would come to a common conclusion.

I have a daughter with the same thing. Also in her twenties, I didn't learn of it until a few years ago. She has had them most of her life she says and they are daily and debilitating(easy to tell when she has one and hasn't taken anything for it). When she was put on some heavy duty meds she said, "so this is what it is like to live without a headache". She has been to neurologists and had MRI's and nothing can be found as to the cause. It hurts me to know my daughter has to live with this her whole life and only has relief from medications, one of which, she isn't even supposed to take daily. The docs warned her about not taking it unless as last resort, but she passed that bridge quickly. I worry about the long term effects of the medicine. I myself have seen the change in her personality from the young girl I knew to the one I see now. You can see it in her eyes, but, what can you do? The doctors have no answer. Unlike your daughter, mine does live on her own, has her job and takes care of her son, but I worry about her daily.

 

[marchick]

I just thought I would post a picture! Sorry they are not clear! This is the younger of my two lavenders. I think he is looking better and has filled out some.

 

[RugerFan777]

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Unless that white in his chest fills in to black, (don't know if that is how silver looks when growing out), I wouldn't use that male for breeding.

That seems standard for silver cockerels. Those are not his adult feathers. We will see.

 

[bruceha2000]

You didn't know about her migraines? How could she hide them (and WHY)?

I myself have seen the change in her personality from the young girl I knew to the one I see now.

I know, such promise. From a "100% is ALMOST good enough" kid to some days where her accomplishment is "I got out of bed today". It is painful. The headache doctor is now calling it a "sudden onset persistent headache".

She doesn't have a migraine every day, she has IT 24x7x365. If she gets triggered (man made fragrances, loud noises, artificial sweeteners (even if it is in gum someone else is chewing)) she will get an "on top" migraine with visual disturbances. She has had as many as 3 at the same time. Each one takes a day to clear and she can barely see to walk. I just took a whole shoebox of old drugs that didn't work or had bad side effects to the drop off at the police station last week.

Does your daughter know about the migraine diet? I get migraines too and found a number of foods I NEED to avoid including anything with nitrates/nitrites, artificial sweeteners, MSG, citrus (can tolerate in small amounts). I can eat peanuts, I can eat chocolate and I can eat regular M&Ms but Peanut M&Ms have ALWAYS given me an instant migraine even well before I knew there was such a thing as a list of food triggers.

I got a list from a headache doctor maybe 15 years ago, 5 pages long I think with "foods that will give some people with migraine syndrome a migraine" (everything on the list will trigger but not every sufferer will trigger on all the foods listed) and a list of foods not known to cause migraines. I don't find that list on line but here is a similar one:

http://www.healthcentral.com/migraine/docs/trigger-foods-workbook.pdf

Testing it is a PITA, you do not eat ANYTHING on the bad list for a month, then OD on ONE thing and see what happens. Kind of like smacking your head with a hammer and seeing if it hurts or if the hammer is made of foam

I can tell you that flour tortillas with cottage cheese got REAL boring REAL fast! But it was worth it for me.

My step sister has migraines and never knew it until *I* told her some years ago, I think she was about 45 at the time. She was CLASSIC and the doctors just kept pumping her with "how dull can your brain get" drugs.

She couldn't work because she lived in a fog. She has eliminated her food triggers and suffers far less often now. I know not everyone with migraines is food sensitive but if your DD hasn't considered this, please ask her to do so. And give her a

from my daughter and me.

 

[scflock]

Don't know much about the Octagon, but wouldn't cardboard block airflow and absorb humidity? I did something similar, not with cardboard, but another solid partition in my incubator and it didn't work out well, hatch wise. I think hardwire cloth is the way to go. Doesn't restrict airflow or humidity. Just my thoughts on it.

I thought about absorbing moisture, and it may use a little more water, but my humidity has been fine so far. The way the Octagon is designed, the fan is right in the middle, and 4 inlets are on each corner of the bottom. The cardboard runs straight down the center, so in theory both sides should still get the same flow. I totally agree with you about the hardware cloth. I didn't have any on hand at lockdown, but that is how I will do it next time. We will see how this batch goes

 

[scflock]

You didn't know about her migraines? How could she hide them (and WHY)?

I myself have seen the change in her personality from the young girl I knew to the one I see now.

I know, such promise. From a "100% is ALMOST good enough" kid to some days where her accomplishment is "I got out of bed today". It is painful. The headache doctor is now calling it a "sudden onset persistent headache".

She doesn't have a migraine every day, she has IT 24x7x365. If she gets triggered (man made fragrances, loud noises, artificial sweeteners (even if it is in gum someone else is chewing)) she will get an "on top" migraine with visual disturbances. She has had as many as 3 at the same time. Each one takes a day to clear and she can barely see to walk. I just took a whole shoebox of old drugs that didn't work or had bad side effects to the drop off at the police station last week.

Does your daughter know about the migraine diet? I get migraines too and found a number of foods I NEED to avoid including anything with nitrates/nitrites, artificial sweeteners, MSG, citrus (can tolerate in small amounts). I can eat peanuts, I can eat chocolate and I can eat regular M&Ms but Peanut M&Ms have ALWAYS given me an instant migraine even well before I knew there was such a thing as a list of food triggers.

I got a list from a headache doctor maybe 15 years ago, 5 pages long I think with "foods that will give some people with migraine syndrome a migraine" (everything on the list will trigger but not every sufferer will trigger on all the foods listed) and a list of foods not known to cause migraines. I don't find that list on line but here is a similar one:

http://www.healthcentral.com/migraine/docs/trigger-foods-workbook.pdf

Testing it is a PITA, you do not eat ANYTHING on the bad list for a month, then OD on ONE thing and see what happens. Kind of like smacking your head with a hammer and seeing if it hurts or if the hammer is made of foam

I can tell you that flour tortillas with cottage cheese got REAL boring REAL fast! But it was worth it for me.

My step sister has migraines and never knew it until *I* told her some years ago, I think she was about 45 at the time. She was CLASSIC and the doctors just kept pumping her with "how dull can your brain get" drugs.

She couldn't work because she lived in a fog. She has eliminated her food triggers and suffers far less often now. I know not everyone with migraines is food sensitive but if your DD hasn't considered this, please ask her to do so. And give her a

from my daughter and me.

I've had migraines since I was 5, but not chronic. I get 2 or 3 a month. I cannot comprehend living with one 24/7

 

[Saris]

I've had migraines since I was 5, but not chronic. I get 2 or 3 a month. I cannot comprehend living with one 24/7

Were they something you told your parents about?

My son is 7 and says he has headaches everyday, but he never tells us about them unless we ask him if he has a headache, then he'll say he does. When asked why he doesn't tell us when they start he says he forgets.

My daughter used to get them all the time (about 2 years ago), she would complain and go lay down, we were told by her bio mom her doctor told her it was tension headches, but a few months after having an eye surgery to correct a lazy eye the headaches went away.

 

[scflock]

Were they something you told your parents about?

My son is 7 and says he has headaches everyday, but he never tells us about them unless we ask him if he has a headache, then he'll say he does. When asked why he doesn't tell us when they start he says he forgets.

My daughter used to get them all the time (about 2 years ago), she would complain and go lay down, we were told by her bio mom her doctor told her it was tension headches, but a few months after having an eye surgery to correct a lazy eye the headaches went away.

I can't remember if I told them, or they just noticed something was wrong. I almost always have a "headache", but if allergies, food, odors, etc.. trigger a migraine, that's totally different. I get clusters, and they are terrible, but rarely last more than 12 hours. I can remember seeing a doctor for them at that age, but was too young to understand what was going on. Daily preventatives don't help, and pain killers are useless, but my doctor put me on Relpax about 3 years go and that has been a miracle drug for me. It works within 2 hours 80% of the time

 

[Miss Ameraucana]

I just thought I would post a picture! Sorry they are not clear! This is the younger of my two lavenders. I think he is looking better and has filled out some.

Oh my gosh! Hes a little Prince! I LOVE HIM! He looks like he knows he's special! Definitely eye candy for the fancier!!

 

[MrsBachbach]

You didn't know about her migraines? How could she hide them (and WHY)?

I myself have seen the change in her personality from the young girl I knew to the one I see now.

I know, such promise. From a "100% is ALMOST good enough" kid to some days where her accomplishment is "I got out of bed today". It is painful. The headache doctor is now calling it a "sudden onset persistent headache".

She doesn't have a migraine every day, she has IT 24x7x365. If she gets triggered (man made fragrances, loud noises, artificial sweeteners (even if it is in gum someone else is chewing)) she will get an "on top" migraine with visual disturbances. She has had as many as 3 at the same time. Each one takes a day to clear and she can barely see to walk. I just took a whole shoebox of old drugs that didn't work or had bad side effects to the drop off at the police station last week.

Does your daughter know about the migraine diet? I get migraines too and found a number of foods I NEED to avoid including anything with nitrates/nitrites, artificial sweeteners, MSG, citrus (can tolerate in small amounts). I can eat peanuts, I can eat chocolate and I can eat regular M&Ms but Peanut M&Ms have ALWAYS given me an instant migraine even well before I knew there was such a thing as a list of food triggers.

I got a list from a headache doctor maybe 15 years ago, 5 pages long I think with "foods that will give some people with migraine syndrome a migraine" (everything on the list will trigger but not every sufferer will trigger on all the foods listed) and a list of foods not known to cause migraines. I don't find that list on line but here is a similar one:

http://www.healthcentral.com/migraine/docs/trigger-foods-workbook.pdf

Testing it is a PITA, you do not eat ANYTHING on the bad list for a month, then OD on ONE thing and see what happens. Kind of like smacking your head with a hammer and seeing if it hurts or if the hammer is made of foam

I can tell you that flour tortillas with cottage cheese got REAL boring REAL fast! But it was worth it for me.

My step sister has migraines and never knew it until *I* told her some years ago, I think she was about 45 at the time. She was CLASSIC and the doctors just kept pumping her with "how dull can your brain get" drugs.

She couldn't work because she lived in a fog. She has eliminated her food triggers and suffers far less often now. I know not everyone with migraines is food sensitive but if your DD hasn't considered this, please ask her to do so. And give her a

from my daughter and me.

No, we didn't hear about the food list, although, I can readily believe it can cause it. I will look into it. She went away at 18, doing her thing, I would see her a couple of times a month. No, she didn't tell me anything about them. I do seem to remember when she was small having one bad episode with a nosebleed, that the doc put down to allergies. She does suffer from allergies during allergy seasons. She constantly gets colds and has sinus problems often. A polyp was found in sinus cavity, but they said it didn't appear to be a problem and removal was optional. She's tight with money so, no removal. Yes, her's are daily and continue without medication. Right now her ob-gyn is thinking hormone related and trying something different on her. I don't think it's working or making a difference although it hasn't been long. I will send her that link. She isn't very good at sticking to diets or keeping track of things in personal life so I don't know how that would go over on her or if she would stick to it. Very independent person and hard to persuade. Her neuro doctor told her they could try botox injections next if the hormonal therpy didn't work. I'm very leery of that suggestion. I'm still wondering if it could be a fungal type cause (very difficult to detect), but she fails to bring that up when speaking with the doctor.