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Great Thread!!! I am in TN, we raise Large Fowl in BBS, Buff, Brown Red & Lavender. We are also working on a true chocolate LF Ameraucana and also LF in red.
We show our birds several times a year, right now we are in the midfle of hatchapalooza, lol! I would love to see more people get involved with the less popular varieties!! In April we will be at the shows in Cookeville, TN and Dickson, TN. I have requested meets for both of them, so come out if you are local!!!
Jes is actually our new South Eastern Director.
if they do not meet standard then they are easter eggers but am sure they will be wonderful
non standard ameraucanas are technically EE, I just don't call them that, as they have pure blood, just not looks. an EE is any bird who doesn't meet the ameraucana standard. the blue and black chicks look like that's what they are. Not sure about the others....
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I am an ABC member. I have talked with some of the officers in the past and that is exactly why I posted what I did. As I stated above, I've written on this extensively on here before and if anyone wants to search for that they can. NYREDS is absolutely right and I'll just give two quick examples to prove the point. For those who are talking about the long time breeders, you might ask yourself why you don't see them on here. And I'm always amazed when I hear people talk about the "serious breeders" and the state something like the above? Why? Because it simply defines common logic.
I hatch out about 100 chicks each from the four breeds I show. Inevitably I get a bird or two that does NOT conform to the Standard. Whether it be one of my "calico" Wheaten Ameraucanas (see the ABC Forum for pics) or a Welsummer that has too much red in it. So this one chick that is a full blood sister to 99 chicks isn't an Ameraucana? Or how about some of the other more common faults/DQ's like feather-legs, clean faces, etc. They're not Ameraucanas?
Paul Smith, one of the "long time", "serious breeders", recently wrote on the ABC Forum about all the specific problems folks are encountering with Wheatens. And btw, it is "Wheaten" and not "Wheaton". He listed feather-legs as one that I still remember and is still showing up from time to time. I had 4 or 5 chicks show up with them last year which is the FIRST time since I started breeding them 8 years ago. I've maintained a closed flock and never crossbred or outcrossed whatsoever. And folks on here want to adamantly and strenuously tell me they are EE's?
NYREDS and the others who say those birds are actually "Non-Standard Ameraucanas" are correct. I call them "culls". Most "breeders" are familiar with that term. Those of you who are so strenuously touting that, how long have you been breeding Ameraucanas? If it's longer than Mike Gilbert, I'll listen. Otherwise, I think I'll go with what he says. Additionally, where some legitimate confusion does come in is in the crossing of two approved varieties that are not genetically compatible. But that is a far cry from saying that ANY Ameraucana that does not meet the SOP is not an Ameraucana. That is just not true and hopefully I've shown that to most people's reasoning.
And btw, the Ameraucana is relatively new as compared to many of the other breeds but the breed was approved almost 30 years ago. Plenty of time for some awfully good birds to have been produced. I wonder why they haven't been?
God Bless,