Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[mirandaleecon]

Uy
I agree..
get some more little ones. That will make you feel better..

I might just do that

 

[scflock]

Did you help them hatch????  I found early on that most of the birds that needed a little help ended up with cross beak.

I'm cold hearted on that too. If they can't hatch on their own, it wasn't meant to be for me.

 

[mirandaleecon]

Did you help them hatch???? I found early on that most of the birds that needed a little help ended up with cross beak.

I did read that low incubation temps can lead to cross beak. It would make sense that the ones you had to assist would develop it. Maybe they were the ones furthest from the heat source...

 

[pips&peeps]

Yes, I did some research last year when this first cropped up. This is known as PT3, not the more common PT1 and PT2 that Marans, etc have. Of course, since neither parent had it, I knew it was recessive, but had a hard time figuring out what breed it actually came from - thank you for that!

It did also crop up in some whites I had last year, but I ended up culling that entire line - for other issues.

I had written Wayne Meredith last year; as the creator of the wheaten/blue wheaten, I thought he could shed some light on it. I culled everything that had a feathered leg, and culled that cock bird and the two hens that were out of the line I had introduced two years earlier, and went back to my foundation stock. I'm hoping I got it all, but I'm not afraid to cull more deeply if I have to.

I just wanted to add that I know several Sumatra breeders and their birds do not have stubs. We don't even know for sure if some lines are crossed to Sumatra. I have never heard the specific breeder referred to saying he crossed his ameraucana with his Sumatra lines.

 

[samouw]

I just wanted to add that I know several Sumatra breeders and their birds do not have stubs. We don't even know for sure if some lines are crossed to Sumatra. I have never heard the specific breeder referred to saying he crossed his ameraucana with his Sumatra lines.

Oh, I didn't give that much credit. I think Jerry is correct with the Langshans and Brahma.

But stubs have been around for a long, long time - this isn't something that one breeder did a few years ago and impacted the entire wheaten/blue wheaten gene pool.

 

[Miss Ameraucana]

Did you help them hatch????  I found early on that most of the birds that needed a little help ended up with cross beak.

I think that's very interesting. Maybe the pipping? makes their beak stronger.

 

[WalnutHill]

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I did, because I didn't know any better back in '98. I think it's the other way around, that the cross beaks are a cause of not hatching, so not assisting would have culled the most severely affected. They did show some deformity at hatch time, it got much worse by week 2 or three. I've assisted other birds at times and never had a cross beak outside of those Ameraucanas. They were just bad stock.

 

[jerryse]

I just wanted to add that I know several Sumatra breeders and their birds do not have stubs. We don't even know for sure if some lines are crossed to Sumatra. I have never heard the specific breeder referred to saying he crossed his ameraucana with his Sumatra lines.

It was done with blue Sumatra onto bantam Ameraucana to get good lacing . Probably 12 or more years ago . He produced a very good line of laced blue bantams . I have never seen stubs in Sumatra .

On another note Buff Brahma was used in buff . I am not sure if that was bantam or large . Also Golden Laced Polish was used in buff to get darker slate legs

I don't think any of this got into the history of the breed .

 

[pips&peeps]

The LF buffs also have orpington in them which is notorious for stubs, yet I haven't had a buff with stubs in all the years I have bred them.

 

[scflock]

The LF buffs also have orpington in them which is notorious for stubs, yet I haven't had a buff with stubs in all the years I have bred them.

This is all fascinating to me. Between this and the other sites, I have so much to learn