Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[Miss Ameraucana]

My favorite blue "Caroline"..is she a boy? Too soon? She seems to be coloring out s little flashy! She is a little natural in front of the camera!

 

[Miss Ameraucana]

Her near twin blue baby

 

[WalnutHill]

#4 boy, #5-6 girl, #7 boy. But time will tell.

 

[Miss Ameraucana]

Probably a bit too early   But maybe someone else has a better eye. 

I apologize some are blurry..

That is a wheaten pullet . No black in breast .

yes!!

I'd say boy on #1, girl on #2 and #3 though #3 is fuzzy.

More girls yes!!

#4 boy, #5-6 girl, #7 boy.  But time will tell. 

Oh I hope so! Little Caroline (the first blue baby)looks feminine for sure!! I think she's as cute as a button!

Thanks so much guys for letting me know what you think or atleast a pretty good idea.
I'll get to a few of the blacks and other blues but not today.

 

[bruceha2000]

You are correct. It is lethal.. If both parents have the tufts gene, 25% of the chicks will die in the shell. Only a bird with tufts carries the tufted gene. If both parents are tufted 50% of the chicks will be tufted 25% dead in shell and 25% non-tufted. If only one parent is tufted you will get 50% tufted and 50% clean faced. This mean you will have tufted and not tufted in your flock. Tailless also causes problems with mating difficulties and reduced fertility.

Um, I am of the opinion that if the animal can not self reproduce maybe it shouldn't exist. Like when I worked at the veterinarian and all the bulldogs had to be born by C section because they had been bred for huge shoulders and narrow hips. Were it not for medical intervention, those breeds would cease to exist in 1 generation.

I think if one is breeding rumpless birds they would cull those that couldn't breed.

Ameraucana are refined Easter Eggers. They all came from the same originally imported birds. The difference is that Ameraucana have been carefully bred with a specific 'standard' in mind for many years. Easter Eggers have not been bred with any kind of standard in mind. I'm working on my own line of Easter Eggers, trying to get a consistent result. Eventually, my birds will breed true. But that goal is still many, many years away.
That's new breeds are created. One person works to get a bunch of birds to consistently produce more of the same. Then, other people want to try breeding those birds too. Pretty soon, you have a breed club, or two. Then you can work on getting the 'breed' recognized by the APA.

The main issue with the Faverolle crosses, are those pesky extra toes. If you can manage to get rid of that trait entirely, you may be able to get a Salmon Ameraucana club going, or ask the breed clubs to include it as a 'project' variety.

Once you have birds that breed true through several generations the hard work starts! No way you could use the name Easter Egger since it is so widely used for birds that DON'T meet specific standards.

As much as I Iike that you don't know what you will get colorwise with a specific EE chick, some turn out absolutely beautiful and wouldn't it be nice to intentionally make more?

The chicks have arrived! The post office called at 7am and I threw some clothes on and rushed off to pick them up. All arrived safely and are heathy and beautiful. <3

You knew the chicks were coming and had to throw on clothes when the PO called? What calm and control! Both times I got shipped birds I was up and dressed probably before the truck left the sorting facility.

 

[StarMeKritten]

I probably would have been up, dressed, and waiting with phone in hand but my son is sick and seems to have shared his cooties with me, as usual. I'm only barely functional today.

 

[jerryse]

Um, I am of the opinion that if the animal can not self reproduce maybe it shouldn't exist. Like when I worked at the veterinarian and all the bulldogs had to be born by C section because they had been bred for huge shoulders and narrow hips. Were it not for medical intervention, those breeds would cease to exist in 1 generation.

I think if one is breeding rumpless birds they would cull those that couldn't breed.


This is exactly why the Ameraucana was created . We felt lethal genes and poor fertility from rumpless was not what we wanted .

 

[Sylvester017]

Um, I am of the opinion that if the animal can not self reproduce maybe it shouldn't exist. Like when I worked at the veterinarian and all the bulldogs had to be born by C section because they had been bred for huge shoulders and narrow hips. Were it not for medical intervention, those breeds would cease to exist in 1 generation.
I definitely won't win friends or influence people in the Araucana world but I'm in absolute agreement about this too. Man finds a genetic or lethal fault interesting enough to perpetuate the fluke into cruel and unusual punishment to the animal - that's why I got out of Persian Cat breeding - some of the faces were so pushed in that the lower jaws jutted out beyond the upper on some of the births. It's hard losing chicks in the shell from a lethal genetic flaw purposely bred but even more cruel to have to put down a deformed litter of live kittens.

As much as I Iike that you don't know what you will get colorwise with a specific EE chick, some turn out absolutely beautiful and wouldn't it be nice to intentionally make more?

Yes!

 

[WalnutHill]

Um, I am of the opinion that if the animal can not self reproduce maybe it shouldn't exist. Like when I worked at the veterinarian and all the bulldogs had to be born by C section because they had been bred for huge shoulders and narrow hips. Were it not for medical intervention, those breeds would cease to exist in 1 generation.

I think if one is breeding rumpless birds they would cull those that couldn't breed.


Once you have birds that breed true through several generations the hard work starts! No way you could use the name Easter Egger since it is so widely used for birds that DON'T meet specific standards.

As much as I Iike that you don't know what you will get colorwise with a specific EE chick, some turn out absolutely beautiful and wouldn't it be nice to intentionally make more?

I agree on not breeding animals for human vanity. While we do breed for human utility, there is no utility in these "ornamental" monstrosities.

I got a new color EE chick in this hatch, and when the next batch hatches I will look for more of that color. Once I have a few, I will breed them together and hopefully get more. Then I can start refining. That is how all breeds came about. Will mine be a breed? Nope, just Easter Eggers. But they will have a type that they can breed true to by simply not propagating those with undesirable characteristics. I've already done this with my columbian pattern EEs, and with my feather footed EEs. This will be a chocolate EE project.

 

[Red Banks]

I burst out laughing when I saw this.