Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[Christie Rhae]

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You should be able to see faint lacing in both your Blacks and your Splash birds if they are carrying the pattern gene.

I do see some faint lacing on that black bird! That is exciting news! But I am not sure where I can detect lacing on the pic of the splash... I had decided I was going to keep ameraucanas and marans and just get a few andalusians for this project but after studying them these past few months I have decided I will also keep a flock of pure andalusians. They are such cool birds. And they are blue! Lol I think I am gonna need more pens... Edit: what kinds of birds are those in the pic? Orpingtons? Cochins? They look so huge and fluffy!

 

[fowlman01]

What is a blue based black? You mean like the black you get from blue/black/splash breeding?
I am worried that in the F2 generation I will not know if the black or splash are actually carrying the pattern genes. Do you mean further down the road when I know my offspring are carrying the genes for sure?
Thanks Walt! Love the SOP book!

I meant a black bird that came out of BBS stock. I'm not sure you will know what genes your birds are carrying that early in the game. Most of us do not know what our birds are really carrying unless you have had a closed flock for some time. that is why all these screwy things happen with offspring. There is no way to look at a chicken and tell what genes it is carrying or how it will relate to any mating. You need to keep very good records of the matings and know what male and female produced what results. Toe punching and trap nesting (if you are using one male and more than one female) is essential for accurate records and history to help decide how to proceed. The genetic formula's are a place to start, but they are based on the breeder knowing what each of the birds is carrying.

I have never raised AM's, but they seem like oriental breeds in that a lot of things were put into them early on....so some strange offspring occasionally appear.

If you have the space and time try bluexblue and blackxsplash. IMO until a person tries some of these things they are just playing the lottery....so to speak. I highly recommend experimenting with your matings and even trying things that people say will not work...because sometimes they do work and they work well. I have had good results doing things that others have said were "impossible". It is not impossible as long as we don't know what is really in these little genetic "packages".

Glad you liked the SOP. The new artist Katherine Plumer did some great illustrations. My next project is to get the brown red AM's closer to a real color in the illustration section.

Walt

 

[heatherscooby77]

I can see it! This is awesome!!! I have noticed it on some of my blacks, now I know what it means. I have decided not to do a blue lacing project. I am creating a breeding pen of SLW. I can't find any eggs or peeps to buy, so I will make my own. I have 3 hens with awesome lacing, and I bought a rooster that came from Foleys. So now I just have to wait. I really like the Sumatras too, might get some more of them. I am getting a black hen, so I will have one of each. They are so calm that my daughter can show them for 4-H. She can't handle the Ameraucanas they are still to big for her. I am going to work on lacing by keeping the best laced ones, no matter what color they are

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You should be able to see faint lacing in both your Blacks and your Splash birds if they are carrying the pattern gene.

 

[BarnGoddess01]

Glad you liked the SOP. The new artist Katherine Plumer did some great illustrations. My next project is to get the brown red AM's closer to a real color in the illustration section.

Walt

I'll be signing up for some of those!! Do, please, keep us posted on how that goes ....

 

[azamazal]

sorry to ask this here, not sure if i should have, can't seem to find an answer searching through old threads. just wanted to know if blue ameraucanas should have white primaries, or if that would be a bird a breeder would cull. i'm keeping her, just wondering, thanks

 

[mama24]

No, she shouldn't. I am totally assuming since I have no read the SOP, but none of my colored birds of any breeds have white primaries, so I assume it's not allowed. How old is your bird, btw? Often they have them as chicks, especially black chicks ime, but lose them before they are of laying age.

 

[azamazal]

oh she's (maybe he) is not even three weeks old, i thought that they stayed that color. her feathers are pretty dark too and i was wondering if she was going to be black, but her down was blue colored. any thoughts on that?

 

[azamazal]

i just took these with my camera phone so they're super bad quality

 

[BarnGoddess01]

There was some talk a few days ago about outside blood being needed for lacing in Blue Ameraucanas. Perhaps I'm biased (more than likely!) but it sure seems to me that some Ameraucana breeders have made GREAT strides with lacing. My Blue boy and girl follow (from pips&peeps.)

Gene (cockerel - 21 weeks old)



Kelly (pullet - 21 weeks old)



Their black sister, Sally (also 21 weeks old)

 

[Christie Rhae]

i just took these with my camera phone so they're super bad quality

What a cute chick! I am not sure that is a blue ameraucana though.
No they are not supposed to have white primaries as an adult.