American serama thread!

[The Hustons]

Free pet Serama - Ocala, Florida I raise Silkied Serama. I paired a smooth hen with a silkied rooster but only get smooth chicks (11/11) I have a pair that is 4.5 months old. Also an additional rooster the same age. I have 2 chicks that are 6.5 weeks old. Slim chance that one of them is a female. MUST be able to protect from hawks & night stalkers.

Is it common to only get smooth chicks w/ that pairing

? I have a frizzle serama hen I wanna breed w/ my silkie roo.

 

[Ra_]

Is it common to only get smooth chicks w/ that pairing

? I have a frizzle serama hen I wanna breed w/ my silkie roo.

I was under the impression that I would get 50/50.
I don't think frizzles mate well with other frizzles, don't know if that applies to mating with silkied serama?
I think they can produce birds that are too naked?

 

[Ra_]

I noticed an interesting phenomenon when feeding my birds.
I finely mince cucumber & celery in the morning & mix it in with their crumble.
They enjoy picking it out of the food.
At the end of the day when I let them roam for a bit, I collect the dishes.
About half the original crumble is left. I put it all in one bowl and add water to make a mash.
I put little piles of the mash near each pair of birds & they attack it like it's ice cream
but if a strong rain should ever soak their food dish during the day, they avoid the wet mash like it was poison.

 

[spotsplus]

I was under the impression that I would get 50/50.
I don't think frizzles mate well with other frizzles, don't know if that applies to mating with silkied serama?
I think they can produce birds that are too naked?

Silkied to straight will give you all straight with recessive silkied. (the straight is dominant and the silkied recessive so straight will always win over recessive so they show the dominant trait of straight and carry silkied recessively. If you breed a silkied to a straight with recessive silkied you get 50/50- 50 % straight with silkied recessive and 50 % silkied. The frizzle gene works the same way as it is also recessive to straight.)

 

[Ra_]

If you breed a silkied to a straight with recessive silkied you get 50/50- 50 % straight with silkied recessive and 50 % silkied. The frizzle gene works the same way as it is also recessive to straight.)

My straight IS silkied recessive. She came from 2 silkied birds.
I got 11/11 straight chicks from her.

 

[The Hustons]

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My straight IS silkied recessive. She came from 2 silkied birds.
I got 11/11 straight chicks from her.

Wow I have so much to learn about genetics !! Very interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing all the knowledge y'all

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[Wishing4Wings]

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By straight, do you mean smooth feathered? I'm not sure about frizzled genetics, but the silkie gene is recessive to smooth feather gene, so the offspring have to inherit one silkied gene from each parent to have silkied feathers. If your smooth hen came from 2 silkied parents, those parents only have silkied genes to pass on, so their offspring are 100% silkied. A smooth bird can have either 2 smooth genes or 1 smooth/1 silkied gene. Barring some odd reverse mutation, your smooth hen could not have come from 2 silkied birds, and given the result of 11/11 smooth offspring (assuming she was bred to a silkied cock), the odds are she is not a split either, but carries 2 smooth genes. Maybe an enterprising smooth smooth hen laid an egg in your silkied nest?

We have all smooth birds, and hatched 9 chicks this spring. 2 came out silkied! so we know that the cock is split for silkied, but we don't know which of the 5 hens are split. Guess we'll have to hatch some more to find out!

 

[Ra_]

Yes, I mean smooth feathered.

I have had my Silkied Serama produce smooth offspring at least twice.
Another bird was Shrimpy, a tiny, round smooth Serama they gave me.
At the time I had zero smooth Serama, so nobody laid an egg in their nest.

I started about 4 years ago with 6 smooth Serama from 3 separate bloodlines.
Peanut, in my avatar, was my first Silkied chick from that group.
I later got some Silkied hens from that same pair & from another smooth hen in the group.
I then gave away my smooth feathered birds and began my line of strictly Silkied Serama

 

[Wishing4Wings]

Yes, I mean smooth feathered.

I have had my Silkied Serama produce smooth offspring at least twice.
Another bird was Shrimpy, a tiny, round smooth Serama they gave me.
At the time I had zero smooth Serama, so nobody laid an egg in their nest.

I started about 4 years ago with 6 smooth Serama from 3 separate bloodlines.
Peanut, in my avatar, was my first Silkied chick from that group.
I later got some Silkied hens from that same pair & from another smooth hen in the group.
I then gave away my smooth feathered birds and began my line of strictly Silkied Serama

Wow, that's really strange. I didn't know it could work that way. Must not be a simple case of dom/rec, or something. I wonder if anyone else has had that happen.

Peanut is nice looking. Do you show him?

 

[Ra_]

Peanut is no longer with us.

I don't try to raise typical show Serama.
I try to breed towards the Ball body type, a type that is bred in Malaysia but I don't think that Malaysians raise Silkied Ball Serama?