American serama thread!

I read a lot about things that interest me. Often it leaves me wanting to scream. Today it is short legged lethal factor. One source denies it exists-a second source says that if short is bred to long no lethal factor-another says that 25% will die-two sources said only two percent of embryos will die. With my short legged serama rooster 50-60% DIS. Recently I switched roosters (long legged) and the first clutch has 9 out of 10 eggs living; the 14 day will be Thursday. Can someone tell me with certainty (1st hand experience) how the lethal factor works?
 
I read a lot about things that interest me.  Often it leaves me wanting to scream.  Today it is short legged lethal factor. One source denies it exists-a second source says that if short is bred to long no lethal factor-another says that 25% will die-two sources said only two percent of embryos will die.  With my short legged serama rooster 50-60% DIS.  Recently I switched roosters (long legged) and the first clutch has 9 out of 10 eggs living; the 14 day will be Thursday. Can someone tell me with certainty (1st hand experience) how the lethal factor works?


I wonder if my hen has that...she so close to the ground compared to the others that she almost died already...i wont be using her for breeding as I don't think shell make it to adult hood.
 
I wonder if my hen has that...she so close to the ground compared to the others that she almost died already...i wont be using her for breeding as I don't think shell make it to adult hood.
Curious-can you post a picture and her age? While I know long legs are desirable, I like the short legs of my rooster. As a chick he was not a robust bird. He is now.



He is not standing in the picture, but if he were you would not see a lot of leg.
 
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I wonder if my hen has that...she so close to the ground compared to the others that she almost died already...i wont be using her for breeding as I don't think shell make it to adult hood.

Pics would be very helpful!
Curious-can you post a picture and her age? While I know long legs are desirable, I like the short legs of my rooster. As a chick he was not a robust bird. He is now.



He is not standing in the picture, but if he were you would not see a lot of leg.
x2 I like long legs, it makes it a little easier to put their wings down
 
Short legs is called creeper gene and I have a serama hen with creeper gene that is between 7-8 years old..SO, there goes that theory.
Seramas can suffer from SDS sudden death syndrome and a host of egg laying problems :(
 
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Short legs is called creeper gene and I have a serama hen that is between 7-8 years old..SO, there goes that theory.
Seramas can suffer from SDS sudden death syndrome and a host of egg laying problems
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creeper gene doesn't mean that the chicken will have a short life span, but it means that some of the eggs will not hatched. If the parents are both with short legs, then the chicks will be: 50% short legs, 25% lethal before hatching and 25% normal (long) legs
http://www.chookshed.info/japanese/genetics.html
 
creeper gene doesn't mean that the chicken will have a short life span, but it means that some of the eggs will not hatched. If the parents are both with short legs, then the chicks will be: 50% short legs, 25% lethal before hatching and 25% normal (long) legs
http://www.chookshed.info/japanese/genetics.html
If I am reading this right I should not be losing any chicks to the lethal factor in that I was pairing my short legged rooster with long legged hens.

Some will mate short-legged birds with long-legged birds which removes the chance of any embryos having the lethal (Ss) combination and all fertile eggs will hatch.

Yet, I am having at least a 50% death rate in developing eggs. Do you have any insight into this? Recently I have switched to a long legged rooster. Of the first clutch of ten eggs nine were still viable at the 7th day. Tomorrow will be the 14 day and I will be candling in the morning. I am very curious to see if there is less DIS. In previous clutches, those eggs that were viable on the 14th day hatched.
 
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Curious-can you post a picture and her age? While I know long legs are desirable, I like the short legs of my rooster. As a chick he was not a robust bird. He is now. He is not standing in the picture, but if he were you would not see a lot of leg.
Everytime I take her out she does this
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Heres one of my roos next to her They were born the end of october i got them at two and three weeks old
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Everytime I take her out she does this

She is a pretty bird. I wish my picture was clearer as my hen has/had the same look to the face. Frail and sickly. My hen has been that way since she hatched. I expected to find her dead long ago. My hen's health has improved, but I doubt she will ever not be frail. Some day I rather think she will die from egg binding; laying eggs is laborious and lengthy. She has brooded eggs twice, hatched one clutch and is now laying eggs again.

To give my Frizzy the best chance at life she gets the best diet possible, vitamins, and I keep her in a warm location. Consider trying different ways to improve your bird's health. I'd start with antibiotics. Then probiotics, vitamins and whatever else would improve her chances.
 
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She is a pretty bird.  I wish my picture was clearer as my hen has/had the same look to the face. Frail and sickly. My hen has been that way since she hatched. I expected to find her dead long ago. My hen's health has improved, but I doubt she will ever not be frail.  Some day I rather think she will die from egg binding; laying eggs is laborious and lengthy. She has brooded eggs twice, hatched one clutch and is now laying eggs again.  

To give my Frizzy the best chance at life she gets the best diet possible, vitamins, and I keep her in a warm location. Consider trying different ways to improve your bird's health. I'd start with antibiotics. Then probiotics, vitamins and whatever else would improve her chances.

She doesnt even live with the other seramas shes in with my nyd chicks
Heres a vid of her walking
 

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