An apocolypse herd/flock

[GhostRider65]

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I've been thinking something is coming for a very long while now, and all the prophecies seem to point in that direction, some are pretty scary stuff, not sure what to believe, but I think being a bit prepared sure couldn't hurt. Kim

 

[Illia]

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What "luxuries" ? Cellphones? Cars? Factories that spit out low-quality products? Heated seats? I'll pass.

 

[Nicola]

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Ride bareback

 

[GarlicEater]

Alcohol is extremely useful.

Ethanol, drinking alcohol, is in "gasoline", Purell, Listerine, is used in little stoves in Europe (here in the US we have to settle for methanol or propyl, not as good for various reasons) your favorite libation and mine, and is good for a ton of things not covered here.

For some reason you can find stills for sale all over Ebay and Craig's List.

 

[GhostRider65]

Like the sound of leather too! But Oh my Goodness.. when Dirty Jobs did the bit about tanning... ugggg... ranks as one of or THE grossest job ever!It really isn't that bad,

It really isn't that bad, I make nice white leather from my deer hides, sometimes I leave the hair on and use alum so it don't shed, but it is alot of work and hard on the hands......especially if yours are bad like mine are. Kim​

 

[Rozzie]

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Yeah, but the little guy has less meat to spoil in hot weather. So, you might be the FIRST to go if it isn't winter...

 

[Rozzie]

And, to answer the original question:

I'd stay with small poultry and add some tilapia.

Small poultry is easier to conceal away from the eyes of those who would want to steal it. Bantam chickens would be a good choice. Quail would be a good choice, if I could figure out how to supply enough protein in such a scenario. I'd have to have a mealworm operation set up, I think, in order to do so. (Not difficult, really...) I'd need to have a solar powered electrical setup to incubate eggs, though. Quail don't do that themselves.

Tilapia seem like an easy choice and one I could transition to eating more easily than other animals (I'm a vegetarian).

 

[country freedom]

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OK i'm about to ramble here so ignore me if you want, i'm just gonna use your post as a jumping off point.

It depends on the squash. in the deep south squash often fails to reach the age where the fruit is old enough that the seed is viable to save. You have to take into account that native diets vary per region. in an apocalyptic situation, unless you grow vine borer resistant variates (butternut and green striped cashaw) you will not have the insecticides to keep the squash producing long enough to get food and allow the fruit to mature enough to get seed before the borers kill the plants. even hand picking won't be enough to save them.

sunflowers wee a big staple in some native cultures, as were potatoes but much of the information on breeding TPS has been lost and eventually the potato community will collapse as disease build sup in the soil as people keep cutting up the same roots and replant the genetically identical tubers.

The best thing to do is research research research the best native food plants for your micro climate, also look for perennial vegetables and "wild" food plants that were likely loosely cultivated by natives of the area, and not only will you have a massive food source but most of the hungry people not recognize them as food plants and will leave them alone.

Some books I recommend for an apocalyptic garden:

"Gardening When It Counts: Growing Food in Hard Times" by Steve Solomon

"seed to Seed" By Suzanne Ashworth

"perenial Vegitables" By Eric Toensmeier

"Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties: The Gardener's & Farmer's Guide to Plant Breeding & Seed Saving" by Carol Deppe

"Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden" By Lee Reich

I have red and re-read the first two books so many times they are falling apart and the other books I have re-read as well. But if you can only invest in one or to books invest in the first two. They are full of so much information on the basics.

The first is basically how to grow a garden (and how to prepare your garden just in case) in an apocalyptic type situation, and how to do it the best way you can. the second is a wealth of information on breeding , processing, and seed saving of hundreds of vegetables

Oh goody!!!

More books for my library...Thanks!

 

[country freedom]

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I second that about bantams, and the small rabbit breeds.
In order to feed groups of people or families.....most people will pass over small bantams if there are larger breeds near.

OTOH - my family used to hunt dove and bobwhites for supper, or cottontails, to feed 8 family members.

 

[KristyHall]

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OK i'm about to ramble here so ignore me if you want, i'm just gonna use your post as a jumping off point.

It depends on the squash. in the deep south squash often fails to reach the age where the fruit is old enough that the seed is viable to save. You have to take into account that native diets vary per region. in an apocalyptic situation, unless you grow vine borer resistant variates (butternut and green striped cashaw) you will not have the insecticides to keep the squash producing long enough to get food and allow the fruit to mature enough to get seed before the borers kill the plants. even hand picking won't be enough to save them.

sunflowers wee a big staple in some native cultures, as were potatoes but much of the information on breeding TPS has been lost and eventually the potato community will collapse as disease build sup in the soil as people keep cutting up the same roots and replant the genetically identical tubers.

The best thing to do is research research research the best native food plants for your micro climate, also look for perennial vegetables and "wild" food plants that were likely loosely cultivated by natives of the area, and not only will you have a massive food source but most of the hungry people not recognize them as food plants and will leave them alone.

Some books I recommend for an apocalyptic garden:

"Gardening When It Counts: Growing Food in Hard Times" by Steve Solomon

"seed to Seed" By Suzanne Ashworth

"perenial Vegitables" By Eric Toensmeier

"Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties: The Gardener's & Farmer's Guide to Plant Breeding & Seed Saving" by Carol Deppe

"Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden" By Lee Reich

I have red and re-read the first two books so many times they are falling apart and the other books I have re-read as well. But if you can only invest in one or to books invest in the first two. They are full of so much information on the basics.

The first is basically how to grow a garden (and how to prepare your garden just in case) in an apocalyptic type situation, and how to do it the best way you can. the second is a wealth of information on breeding , processing, and seed saving of hundreds of vegetables

Oh goody!!!

More books for my library...Thanks!

yay I helped!