Annoying neighbor rant- They wanna KILL my dogs!! longish story....

[suzettex5]

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NOOOOO,,,,, I did NOT say the dog was IN MY HOUSE. The dog was brought onto my property- my front yard, where my kids were playing, when it attacked our dog- which was also...on my property. Last time I checked, when a dog comes onto someones property, unleashed, sans owner, and causes damage- the owner is 100% responsible for the damages. And it was at the time of the incident that we were told it had bitten someone. HARDLY my responsibility/fault if I was unaware of its presence due to the call of nature- SORRY I'm not omnipitent and not capable of knowing all and being everywhere at once.
Yes, it was a case of small dog vs big dog, but I cant believe you would be so harsh. And if you would like to see the medical records, I'll send 'em to ya- no charge. She had multiple open wounds, several broken ribs, a blown pupil, and several places where the internal skin membrane had been torn internally which allowed her intestines to fall out into her abdominal cavity, I think it was called severe hernias? She would NOT have survived the trauma without surgery. Period. And yes, the bill was a tad over 900 dollars, but far be it from me to complain if you think the bill should have been more. I love our vet, and I am very faithful to their practice- they have always been good with our animals, and I never felt like they charge too much. I keep up on shots and all the required pet stuff, so I dont know where your coming from. Gosh, I hope you dont work at my vets office anytime soon, your bedside manners must be atrocious based on your response. Do you blame all your clients for their animals injuries?

 

[RunnerDucks]

Can I control every little possible event that might lead to my dogs getting out once in awhile? NO- I live in the real world with kids, (1,3, 5, 11, 13) and sometimes they forget to shut a door, they are just human after all. Could I build an escape proof fence that would not keep me and my family prisoners in our home? NO and I'm not gonna try.

You've got a dog that you say has a bite record, coming onto your property, and 5 little children. This dog also has a history of attacking dogs, and you've got small dogs. In other words, everybody that depends on you for safety is vulnerable to this animal, and you're "not gonna try" to take steps to protect them.
Honestly, in the other posts, I get the idea that you just let the dogs out, quite frequently, and for long periods. Why else would you be worried about one of your dogs' temperature sensitivities?

I am not usually a brutally honest person, but you need to get with the program. Either move to a place where your children and dogs are safe (and where you don't encounter so many problems when you unleash them on the public), or do what it takes to protect them. You're coming across very hypocritical. You want other people to change and pay up to protect you and yours and to stop your annoyance, but you're not going to put forth any substantial effort to protect your own, protect their dog from your dog getting into their fence and their dog getting the blame for doing what is in its nature, and protect your neighbors from the incredible annoyance that so many small dogs are. Their dog is not the only one acting aggressively! Your dogs' behaviors are aggressive too.​

 

[herfrds]

Now I did not read through the 5 pages.

1 I would have taken him to small claims for the full amount of the vet bills.

2. What type of fence is he putting up?
depending upon the type you might be able to put something up on your side to keep your dogs out.

Did you call the animal control? That dog can be listed as dangerous.
remember.....

Document, Document, Document everything, from the dog attack to the remarks he has made.

 

[chels23]

Come on people lets not get rude and attack her. She already knows that she needs a fence, she has said so several times. She also shouldn't have to move because her neighbors dog bit someone. If their dog bit someone in the past it shouldn't be running around loose anyway. I think that's the point that the OP was trying to make. It's the neighbors dog that has a bite history there for it's the neighbors who should keep there dog penned at all times, even if hers aren't. (Which they also should be even if it's just to keep the peace)

 

[suzettex5]

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You've got a dog that you say has a bite record, coming onto your property, and 5 little children. This dog also has a history of attacking dogs, and you've got small dogs. In other words, everybody that depends on you for safety is vulnerable to this animal, and you're "not gonna try" to take steps to protect them.
Honestly, in the other posts, I get the idea that you just let the dogs out, quite frequently, and for long periods. Why else would you be worried about one of your dogs' temperature sensitivities?

I am not usually a brutally honest person, but you need to get with the program. Either move to a place where your children and dogs are safe (and where you don't encounter so many problems when you unleash them on the public), or do what it takes to protect them. You're coming across very hypocritical. You want other people to change and pay up to protect you and yours and to stop your annoyance, but you're not going to put forth any substantial effort to protect your own, protect their dog from your dog getting into their fence and their dog getting the blame for doing what is in its nature, and protect your neighbors from the incredible annoyance that so many small dogs are. Their dog is not the only one acting aggressively! Your dogs' behaviors are aggressive too.

Ok, first- I didnt KNOW the dog was a biter until the incident! Second- I said I wasnt going to be a prisoner, NOT that I wasnt going to do anything at all, in fact,if you took the time to read all the posts, I stated that I am , in fact,going to be doing what I can as soon as I can. Oh,and yes, my dog behaved NORMALLY to what it percieved as a threat to its home turf- she barked at a big dog in 'her' yard- hardly grounds for a mauling. I can only do so much, and the way you put it, if I dont build 10 foot steel walls buried 5 feet underground completely around my property, I would be at fault no matter what.

AND I DO NOT LET THEM OUT FREQUENTLY FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME JUST BECAUSE OF THE TEMP SENSITIVITY!! Your very statement made no sense! I try my best to keep them inside, but GEEEZE, they gotta pee sometimes, and yes, sometimes they get out. I DONT do it intentionally!! I dont "unleash" them on the public- THERE IS NO PUBLIC out here where we live- well, except my neighbors that I have the issue with. Obviously they count, but my dogs dont run the streets nor go anywhere else, since there is no where else to go! And I am very concerned for their safety, especially when I have a neighbor practically gloating over the fact that his dog wants to kill our dogs. What kind of person actually WANTS their dog to kill a small family pet? Oh yeah- the same kind of person who didnt care if his dog killed our other pet right before Christmas...

And that is PURE B.S that the fact that THEIR dog came onto OUR property and attacked OUR dog "Is what is in its nature". I didnt ask anyone to pay for anything, except for the neighbor whose dog was at fault! What are you talking about? They put up a fence to keep their dog in- hardly my job to pay for their fence. My job is to pay to keep my dogs contained, a project we will be working on asap, as stated previously...

Perhaps I have been hypocritical, I will have to review my posts and my thoughts and try harder to see things from the other persons point of view. As for the small dogs being anoyances, well, thats your opinion- my dogs are pretty much loved by everyone who meets them, they have decent manners (no begging, no jumping, NO BITING, no rough-housing)Boston Terriers are known for being friendly and not being barkers and for being low key, not aggressive. Other than the fact that out puppy is the one doing all the running and barking at the neighbors, our dogs are great. The puppy I'm working on.

Please do not confuse being mean-spirited with being brutally honest- I appreiciate honesty, I dont need any negativity.

 

[RachelFromTheBlackLagoon]

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HOLY CRAP, seriously. It's like a pack of ravenous wolves. There's a huge difference between being honest and giving constructive advice and just being plain old rotten.

 

[Rin]

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HOLY CRAP, seriously. It's like a pack of ravenous wolves. There's a huge difference between being honest and giving constructive advice and just being plain old rotten.

Yea seriously, my jaw dropped at some of these posters. Good lord people. Sure she's not right in letting her dogs run willy nilly but obviously she seems to want to correct that. But some of you seem to completely miss the facts or twist her words around completely - why? We're all chicken lovers here - make eggs not war. She never said anything about knowing the dog was a biter before hand - and had to correct people on this - what? Three times now? She also wasn't present when it was brought on her property without any prior knowledge - where the attack took place. I dunno WHAT vet office you work in or where but in about every state they would have been legally liable for the full amount of vet bills - dog came on their property without permission, unleashed, then tried to maul the dog who DID have a right to be there(as an added note, no two vets charge the same - out here we have two vets who charge WIDLY different amounts, even for just check ups - if you really are who you say you are, you would know this). Whether or not the attackee was instigating things doesn't matter. Dog should be leashed on someone elses property especially when the owners of said dog are well aware of it's history. That said, I'd defo go with a run made with zip ties and possibly HW cloth, chicken wire wont protect anything - especially not from a dog who's on the attack.

 

[Jody]

I use an overhead dog trolley since I can't afford to fence the whole property and my dog would wander around the neighborhood if I didn't. You can get them up to 100ft long.. Mine is 60' and the dog has plenty of room to play and exercise, etc.

As for your situation, had that been me, your neighbors would of had a dead lab on their hands had that been my dog it was attacking.

My neighbors have a boxer that frequently escaped and come onto my property and become playfully mischievous with my dog, but I was really concerned about the possibility of this dog ever attacking my chickens or ducks so had to go buy a fence to build a fenced in free range area for them just in case.. I know that dog wouldn't hurt my dog or children, but who knows if it would hurt my birds.

 

[patandchickens]

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No.

Listen to what people are saying.

If they put up a crappy fence and their dog gets out, it is their fault.

However if YOUR dog gets through their fence INTO their yard, it is indeed your fault.

And what you told us in your first post was that they built a fence with holes small enough to keep their dog contained but large enough for your dogs to go through.

They have NO responsibility whatsoever to fence your dogs out; only to contain THEIR dog.

Didnt realize when I posted I was gonna turn out to be the annoying neighbor...

There are two things here.

One is that you just plain don't like your neighbors, for what seems like good reason (they have evidently said a bunch of rude and unneighborly things to you).

But honestly that has NOTHING to do with the second and more immediate issue, which is whose responsibility it is to keep your dogs safe.

Confusing the two issues is not going to be helpful. Dislike those folks as much as you like, but you gotta recognize your OWN contribution to the dog problem TOO, and do something about it, and accept any consequences that may unfold if you *don't* do something about it.

Good luck,

Pat​

 

[Casey3043]

The only way to deal with neighbors from hell---MOVE! You are lucky that you rent and won't have to sell a house in this poor market before you can buy another. I would be looking for another place right now. This is not going to get better, no matter how much you train or fence your dogs. It's a disaster waiting to happen.

My sympathy is with you as far as the trespassing dog injuring your dog is concerned. Only mistake you made was in not suing them for the whole vet bill. That would have given them pause the next time they went to let their dog out to roam.

You are right---with 5 kids running in and out, sooner or later a door will get left open and then........

Good luck on your house hunting venture. Lots of good properties out there, and prices are low. Go for it!!