Another sick chicken...egg bound while molting?

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Sigh...I have a chicken who is in rough shape and need some advice.

I'll give some background info. My chickens are molting and it is getting cold in Wyoming (single digits at night). They've had extra protein (meal worms) access to calcium, scratch to keep them busy, extra shavings in the coop etc...almost all of them seem to be doing fine. They are out during the day and one of them seems finished and is back to laying.

Except this one hen. So unfortunately she broke her leg at a young age (about a year and a half ago), but we decided to see if she could heal and be alright. In general she does fine. She gets around fine, dust bathes, and I've even miraculously seen her on the roost once or twice, though she usually just sleeps on the ground. However she is a bit more of a loner than the other hens. Usually they all get along fine, and she does spend time with them/snuggle up with some etc. she just tends to be by herself more often. She is also more prone to being bullied it seems, occasionally. She is the only one that has gotten broody, so during those times she gets picked on.

So I've noticed over the past few days that she is not doing so hot. She doesn't come out of the coop much, and when she does she tends to be pretty still. She is getting bullied by a couple other hens pretty badly, one that isn't usually nasty, but they are molting badly so I think they are just cranky. Anyway yesterday I noticed how bad they were being and how sullen she seemed so I isolated her in a dog crate with some food, water, and wind protection. She seemed alright if not great, she scratched around for scratch I put in there, seemed to drink and eat some, though she mostly slept.

Today i got her out of the coop in the morning and put her back in there. I was worried she wasn't able to eat or drink because of the bullying so I wanted to see how she would do. She seemed worse today. She was more unstable than usual, puffing up her neck feathers (not at the approach of other hens) and sagging her butt a little. She ate the treat I gave her and food if I held it up to her, but I couldn't really get her to drink water. Her poops looked fairly normal if kind of small. I put a heating lamp on her to see if that would help. She wasn't getting better, and I am not even close to an expert so I kind of braced myself for her not making it, figured she is slightly weaker because of her leg.

Then I realized she could be egg bound. I didn't think of it at all because she hasn't laid in quite some time (a month or so) and she is still molting. I've had one egg bound hen before though so it seemed like similar behavior, and this was the only thing I could think of. I reallllly didn't want to bring her inside, because I don't want her used to the warmth, but I figured if she is egg bound, that would be her only chance. So I've done what I did with the other hen that got her through; I examined her vent, and didn't feel anything, though I never know what I'm doing. I did an epsom salt bath, massaged her rear end, lubed her vent with preparation H and vaseline, gave her some crushed up calcium tablet, gave her coconut oil, put her in a dog crate inside with a heating pad, and tried my best to get her to drink water. She only drank a little and is still resisting. She is more open to food, but I've taken it away. I covered her crate up so it's dark, and even diffused lavender! haha. Like I said her poops have looked normal, though some white poop came out while I was examining her vent, and I guess it could have been tinged yellow, which is scary.

So... If an egg broke inside her is there anything i can even do? I feel like she might just not make it. Does this sound like she could be egg bound? Can they be egg bound while actively molting? If she does make it, whats the best way to reacclimate her to the cold? I can't have her living inside the next three months! Any other advice?

Thank you for reading a long thread!
 
I can't help much, but treat her for shock. Make her drink some water with electrolytes in it, gatorade does the trick.

Thanks, I'll try gatorade if I can get myself to the store. The water I've been giving her has ACV in it. I should have electrolyte chicken powder on hand, but I don't! I'll be sure to try and force her to drink water every couple of hours.
 
Thanks, I'll try gatorade if I can get myself to the store. The water I've been giving her has ACV in it. I should have electrolyte chicken powder on hand, but I don't! I'll be sure to try and force her to drink water every couple of hours.
You can also made a homemade "sugar water" which uses sugar, salt, baking soda, etc. There's some recipes on BYC.
 
Updating to bump this...

So the hen has been inside all night, I offered her water every few hours and she definitely drank it much more readily after her bath, though she still wasn't moving much to get it on her own. This morning she seems more animated, is drinking water well. I don't know whats up with her so I don't know whether or not to give her food but I put some in her crate and she is moving now to get some. Her poops don't look bloody or yellow, they seem a little small and dry, and grey?

Maybe she was just too cold, dehydrated, or something? Maybe she is still egg bound? I would appreciate some thoughts. I also don't know what to do with her now as I don't want her living in my kitchen until spring...how can I get her back outside without shocking her?
 
Can you post some photos of her poop and of her?

If she is pooping, then she is not "egg bound". Now, she could be a bit constipated or it's possible she might have an egg higher up in the oviduct, but usually if a hen is in molt, they stop laying all together.

Is her crop emptying completely overnight? Check the crop, how does it feel? Any sour smell to her breath?

When you gave her a soak - did you notice any bloat, swelling or feeling of fluid in the abdomen?

I feel you did the right thing by bringing her in. With chickens it's so hard sometimes to pinpoint what is going on. Molting can be very hard on them and if she is being bullied, she may have not been eating/drinking either - so it's possible she may just be dehydrated, cold and needs something to eat, but the sagging butt is concerning to me.
Try to encourage her to drink. If you have poultry vitamins add those to her water. See if she will eat her normal feed - you can try it wet. Some extra protein like egg or tuna is usually welcomed as well.

Hopefully she will perk up, but keep a watch on her. Let us know how she's doing.
 
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Thank you for responding! I really appreciate it.

Her crop feels normal to me. She's not doing any jerky head movements to throw up, didn't seem like her breath is sour.

Her abdomen didn't seem swollen, if anything a little hard. She's always a little smaller than the others though so maybe just thin.

I don't think I can get vitamins today, small town and the holiday, but I'll look tomorrow. She's drinking water with acv in it. She's more perky today and as you can see hobbled over to get food. She is still reluctant to move much, and seems a little sleepy and puffed up still. I haven't noticed her sagging her butt, but she hasn't walked much so I don't know. Like I said she has a messed up leg so it could have been just a matter of being wobbly.

I will give her some meal worms and keep her inside for one more day and night... Then I'll have to see how she does outside. I guess I'll keep her in the crate with some wind insulation and the heating lamp, then maybe put the lamp in the coop for the night to help her get back used to it?
 
Can you post some photos of her poop and of her?

If she is pooping, then she is not "egg bound". Now, she could be a bit constipated or it's possible she might have an egg higher up in the oviduct, but usually if a hen is in molt, they stop laying all together.

Is her crop emptying completely overnight? Check the crop, how does it feel? Any sour smell to her breath?

When you gave her a soak - did you notice any bloat, swelling or feeling of fluid in the abdomen?

I feel you did the right thing by bringing her in. With chickens it's so hard sometimes to pinpoint what is going on. Molting can be very hard on them and if she is being bullied, she may have not been eating/drinking either - so it's possible she may just be dehydrated, cold and needs something to eat, but the sagging butt is concerning to me.
Try to encourage her to drink. If you have poultry vitamins add those to her water. See if she will eat her normal feed - you can try it wet. Some extra protein like egg or tuna is usually welcomed as well.

Hopefully she will perk up, but keep a watch on her. Let us know how she's doing.

I don't know if I responded correctly. Anyway the picture of her poop is a little hard to see because it's on a towel I wrapped around the heating pad. But as you can see it seems small and a lot of white.
 

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