ant problem

Discussion in 'Predators and Pests' started by jkhenry, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. jkhenry

    jkhenry Chirping

    Feb 22, 2013
    i have a large red ant hill in my chicken coop and will b transfering my chickens there in a couple of weeks can sumone tell me whats the best way to kill ants without jepordizing my chickens
  2. Impress

    Impress Songster

    Jun 4, 2011
    Gray, TN
    Pour a big pot of boiling water over the hill so it drains down into their tunnels and fries them. Repeat a few times to make sure you got everyone. (If some survive they will start grabbing babies and trying to move out, so put more water on to boil as soon as you have emptied your pot.)
  3. drumstick diva

    drumstick diva Still crazy after all these years. Premium Member

    Aug 26, 2009
    Out to pasture
    that's what I do for ants but be careful you don't spill the boiling water on yourself when doing so. I've had a couple of close calls doing so. It is amazing tho how they are geared up to immediately grab the eggs and take them away. I've also seen them clean the nest - the survivors carry the dead ones away from the nest. Good things ants are small or they'd invent weapons of mass destruc tion and come after us.
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  4. 7L Farm

    7L Farm Songster

    Jul 22, 2010
    Anderson, Texas
    I use Food Grade DE. This year I'm gonna try Benefical Nematodes as well. Lots of fire ants here.The ants can & will kill day old chicks.
  5. jkhenry

    jkhenry Chirping

    Feb 22, 2013
    where can i get that stuff my chicks are 3 weeks old now but im still concerned what to use
  6. jkhenry

    jkhenry Chirping

    Feb 22, 2013
    i will try boiling water and see if that works its only 1 ant hill but a big one it started in coop after i built it
  7. From your location and the description of a “large” hill of red ants, I suspect that you have imported red fire ants. So before you through your back out schlepping boiling water, be advised that the vertical tunnels extend all the way to the permanent water table. Also on a large fire ant colony the horizontal tunnels may cover an acre or more, so good luck with the water cure. Monkeying around with the ants’ mound is a sure way to encourage the ants to relocate the mound, sometimes as far as 20 feet away but the direction of the move is up to the ants. It is even possible to force the mound across property lines in a subdivision but this is neither a way to manage or to control fire ants.
    Here is the truth about fire ant cures or non cures from Organic Gardening.

    good luck with your ant problem.
    Bucketing fire ant colonies
    This is one of the simplest ways of dealing with one or two problem colonies. Basically, the procedure is to rapidly dig the mound and a foot or so of soil under the mound and dump it into one or several large buckets ….
    Oh boy!!! Please, Please, don’t forget to leave the video camera running when you "bucket" your fire ants so that we can all have a laugh at your expense.

    Hot water
    Pouring hot water on the mounds is effective and environmentally friendly, but may require 3 or 4 applications to kill the colony. Water should be at least scalding hot, but does not need to be boiling. This works best when you use 3 to 4 gallons of water in each application…

    Corn grits
    The theory is that the fire ants will eat the dry corn grits, drink some water, and then die as the corn grits expand inside them. The image of greedy little ants exploding like popcorn inside their mounds is very compelling. The problem is that fire ant workers only drink liquids; they are incapable of ingesting solids. Fire ant larvae will eat solid food, but they chew it up and mix it with saliva just like we do….

    This old wives tail may have got started by Ann Landers’ advise to young wives to not let people toss rice at their weddings because the rice would swell up in birds’ wee stomachs causing the death of everything from chickens to chickadees. Or it could be the fact that hominy grits has long been used as a carried for fire ant insecticides as the insecticide laced grits are carried into the colony by the workers and fed to the larva and then the insecticide kills the adult ants' food supply.

    At any rate all classes of fire ants queens, workers, guards, and warriors are completely dependent on the ant larva for their liquid food supply. This is why it is important to start killing fire ant mounds from the bottom up because killing the larva is the key to exterminating the whole colony by way of starvation.

    Straw itch mites
    Some studies have shown moderate benefits from releasing these beneficial mites, but other studies have found none. However, the most dramatic effect has been the large rashes that researchers have gotten from some of the stray mites that they were releasing. Ooh, itchy, itchy, ITCHY!

    I won’t go into Diatomaceous Earth except to say that Mississippi is full of the stuff and the state has a very respectable imported fire ant population as well. Besides, tossing fire ants into diatomaceous earth or rather tossing diatomaceous earth onto imported red fire ants is too much like the old Walt Disney tail about Brier Fox and Brier Bear pitching ’Brier Rabbet “In that there brier patch.”
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2013
  8. hitgsd

    hitgsd In the Brooder

    Jul 19, 2011
    Fire ants where in my coop last year, not the mound but workers. So I removed all shavings and put down sevin dust then replaced the shavings. The ants died, or at least moved on. And if you are unsure of the ant species when you start messing with the mound you will get a fast education, those suckers are called fire ants for a reason. Not only do the bites burn but they raise blisters. Nasty little beasts.
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  10. Stpkellogg

    Stpkellogg In the Brooder

    Apr 7, 2013
    So I am new to this, and I have a few worker ant piles in the yard and now in my newly built coop already and in my garden, for the garden part can I try the boiling water? How about a little dish soap in it as well? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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