Any animal protein mixed aged flock feed?

[thompsonfarm]

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I'm totally with you there!

 

[thompsonfarm]

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Feed companies don't do the dirty work. They get bulk supplies from rendering plants where all meat manufacturing byproducts get sent to, along with dead companion animals, horses, road kill etc. The rendering plants pay a small amount for these "products" which is easy $ considering these items would be "wasted" otherwise. These "products" are then dumped into a large vat and ground up into a slurry then cooked slowly at first to scrap the fat off of the top (animal fat) this fat is then used in feeds. After the fat skimming the slurry is then cooked at very high temps until all of the moisture has evaporated yielding "meat and bone meal"

Here is a link to a very graphic video of a rendering plant but I'm warning you it's graphic!
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=03jOl1xG084

 

[Chris09]

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I'll buy a drink for the first one to come up with an authoritative cite.

I'm using my IPhone so I don't know if the link will transfer.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/PS/PS02400.PDF
... Meat and bone meal is comprised of 80% beef and pork by-products... Where does the other 20% come from? When your talking "millions of tons" of meat and bone meal I would say that 20% equates to a ton of weight... Just sayin' if I don't know exactly where it came from... I'm NOT feeding it to my animals.

Where did you read that, "Meat and bone meal is comprised of 80% beef and pork by-products"?
I saw where it states that, "today, beef and pork by-products account for more
than 80 percent of all products processed".


Chris

 

[Chris09]

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Feed companies don't do the dirty work. They get bulk supplies from rendering plants where all meat manufacturing byproducts get sent to, along with dead companion animals, horses, road kill etc. The rendering plants pay a small amount for these "products" which is easy $ considering these items would be "wasted" otherwise. These "products" are then dumped into a large vat and ground up into a slurry then cooked slowly at first to scrap the fat off of the top (animal fat) this fat is then used in feeds. After the fat skimming the slurry is then cooked at very high temps until all of the moisture has evaporated yielding "meat and bone meal"

Here is a link to a very graphic video of a rendering plant but I'm warning you it's graphic!
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=03jOl1xG084

First, your link is dead.
Second, do they state that the product is MBM, do they state that the MBM is for poultry feed use? There are types of MBM one is feed grade the other is not.
I tend not to trust too much that is posted on youtube, there are a lot of lies and misinformation posted on there.

The MBM that is not feed grade is used in Agriculture Industry for soil improvement.

Chris

 

[Clay Mudd]

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+1. I generally don't even bother watching the videos any more.

 

[Clay Mudd]

This kind of breaks down into two questions:

1. Are rendering plants allowed to use roadkill, pets, etc. in MBM intended for feed-grade MBM?

2. If they're allowed, do they actually do it?

My google-fu has failed to unearth a USDA regulation saying what may or may not be in MBM, but I did find this:



http://ddr.nal.usda.gov/bitstream/10113/1915/1/IND43847784.pdf

Material from cattle, swine, and poultry made up the
majority of the raw material processed by the renderers
surveyed (fig. 2). Most MBM submitted contained material
from more than one species, three of the submitted samples
were all pork material, three were all cattle, and one was 99%
chicken. A minority of renderers reported using any material
from cervids, horses or aquatic animals; none of these species
made up greater than 10% of an individual renderer’s raw
material. No renderers reported including any sheep, dog,
cat, or other companion, fur or zoo animals. The absence of
canine or feline material is consistent with an FDA report,
which examined a range of commercial dog food, many
varieties of which contained MBM. Using a very sensitive
method to identify the species of the material, they did not
detect any feline, canine or equine tissue (Myers et al., 2004).

Ten out of 19 renderers used as least some material
from dead stock (animals that died before slaughter); 5 of 19
renderers had dead stock as at least 10% of their raw material.
None of the renderers reported using any dead stock from
non-agricultural sources such as road kill, wildlife culling,
racing animals, zoos, or veterinarians. Eight out of 19 renderers
had some material that consisted of meat products past
their ‘sell by’ date; 5 out of 19 renderers had this type of
material as at least 10% of their raw material.​