Any Problem with Oversized Nesting Boxes? My Current Footprint?

Absolutely!

I live in Austin, TX (a fairly chicken-friendly town). The city code stipulates that I cannot keep a noisy animal and outlines setback guidelines. Beyond that, I can have as many as six goats (as long as they are female or neutered males), as many chickens as are housed appropriately, and miniature livestock! It's a cool town. I doubt that my neighbors care if I have chickens. However, I am hoping to house the chickens in an pristine enough fashion that they are unlikely to know they are there. Frankly, the city code does not even preclude a rooster as long as it is not noisy. I went on a coop tour where the chicken owner simply kept their French Copper Maran rooster in the laundry room at night, returning him to his harem each morning!
I had a cooler place to put the coop, a niche in my yard bordered by the house, neighbor's fence, and the fence separating my front and back yard. Sandwiched against my foundation and and cemented fence posts, it would have been pretty impenetrable with very little investment in materials and labor. Even cooler, a doorway added to the base of the fence separating my yards would have given the chickens access to the vegetable garden whenever I opened it. Furthermore, I could have watched the chickens out one window,... but it wasn't within code as it would have been closer than 50ft to my neighbor's residence (and threatened the mental stability of their chicken-hungry dogs). I doubt my neighbors care or have a clue what the city code states, but was not willing to risk having to move it. I have been contemplating automatic feeders/waterers, but I am a dork that likes feeding things. I get a twisted sense of accomplishment when I set down the freshly prepared dog bowls for the night. If all else in my day has gone awry, at least I am still the hero that fixed their world. However, I may need automatic options to give me the freedom to disappear for a few days without having to rely on a pet sitter. As to convenience... The proposed hen house location put it 20ft off my back patio within easy reach of the hose faucet. Even more convenient, the rainwater collection barrels are right there with spigots on the bottom. My plan is to store the feed in the blind corner created between the two external nest box quads on adjacent walls. The compost is 40ft away from the run door. I have a fairly big yard by Austin standards (0.8 acre), but liked the idea of having the chickens close by. The proximity of the coop is part of the reason for incorporating a variety of eye-candy features beyond efficiency. Thanks for the personal experience on the fence height. I would love to give the chickens free-range time if it is possible. The fence between my yard and the chicken-eating dogs is 6' high privacy. However, the back fence is four foot cyclone to allow maximum visibility of the huge green space behind me. I am concerned that the wide open space and feed that some people put out for the deer might tempt my chickens to roam. (You are not supposed to feed the deer inside the city limits, but people do...causing the population of my backyard deer to be about 30!) For the record, I am not that organized. I am just frugal and lazy enough to realize that some exhaustive planning is saves me quite a bit of expense, time, and labor. Furthermore, the planning can be done as a pretense for productivity while I watch TV (It's a recorded episode of "The Good Wife" right now). Labor, time, and money are not as easy to come by. Besides, it has long been established that the significant other and I may both have English as a first language, but cannot understand each other. One too many trips to a hardware store picking up an item that met all the criteria given in the description,but was not the RIGHT item... has impressed on both of us the importance of detailed blueprints/sketches to forestall any homicidal tendencies. Everybody's suggestions have already impacted my design significantly. Dutch doors have been added to the back wall of the coop. The nest boxes are now modular in nature. The hen house floor is no longer iron grates, but solid with deep litter ABOVE it. I am going to incorporate trapdoor and temporary fence panel closing off the run beneath the hen house to create a coop-within-a-coop for non-contagious isolation purposes (brooder area, new introductions, injuries,etc). Now that the deep litter method is being employed in the hen house, I am going to raise the floor and the overall coop height. My original intention was to keep it completely out of my neighbor's view by making it the same height as the privacy fence. In my new arrangement, the roof will be visible over the fence. However, the boyfriend (whose a foot taller) will also be able to stand upright in the run and the wheelbarrow can be pushed right beneath the hen house floor to sweep it out. It's quite a bit of work, but I am not planning for this to be done until spring, ....just in time for baby chicks. If you are interested, I will try to take pictures of the process, finished product, and features unique to my design. I cannot tell you how invaluable the collective wisdom has been thus far and really appreciate y'all taking the time to offer feedback on my hare-brained ideas.:love
Definitely provide updates and images from start to finish> You can enter the coop contest next year! Keep records on prices/expenses as well, so if someone is looking to build something similar, they will know how much they will be set back money wise :) When do you think you will start? I'm excited for you! Getting your first chickens is a wonderful experience, and one that can not be forgotten. I remember the day we went to pick up our first 4 chickens (don't even want to know how many we have now ;) ). I was sweating because I was so excited. Now it's become a saying in our family: "Sweating like chicken day". :lol: If you need any help deciding breeds, THAT I am good at :) I like friendly, productive and beautiful chickens. Lots of eye candy :D
 
That's a lovely coop, and fundamentally similar to mine (raised floor, covered run, area under floor as part of run). What I see missing is windows. Chickens lives revolve around the sun, and Heather's lovely coop has not one single window in the coop. I have windows on three sides of my coop. They have glass multiple pane windows on loose pin hinges. In the summer the windows get completely removed. The roof overhang keeps rain out and there's very little limit to the amount of air flow going through. I just finished installing the windows for this coming fall and winter. When it is nice, I can prop them open to get the amount of ventilation I want. Just stating an opinion (and a newbie one at at that), but I would rather have windows and light in the coop than a ventilated floor.
I totally agree and already bought windows! I am trying to improve on her design ( as lovely as it is). My proposed hen house is a 6' square with exterior nest boxes extending another 18" arranged in quads on the edges of two adjacent walls. Access will be provided with external doors (rather than a hinged roof), and the blind corner joining them will be used as feed storage. That leaves 3' of wall space to either side of the nest boxes that will each be fashioned into a 3'w x 3.5'h door. The one facing my patio will have a 22"w x 37"h window and the door facing the rear fence will have two matching 8"w x 37"h windows. The other two walls facing the neighbor's fence and run will not have any windows.

This would provide light for the hen house and a portal for me to look in. My hope is that putting the windows on the same walls as the nest boxes and omitting them from those opposite, would allow light in without detracting from the privacy of the laying area. I can situate the feed and water in front of the window facing the patio to check on the levels regularly as long as the roof eaves provide enough shade to reduce glare.

What do you do to secure the hen house from predators when you remove the windows for summer?

Other "improvements" to Heather's design:
The wall facing my neighbor's fence will have two 3'w x 3.5" h dutch doors. "Wink" commented on how helpful it was to access the hen house without chickens escaping. I will do the same at the end of the run. The wall of the hen house that faces the coop will be hinged to open completely to allow cleaning. Now that the deep litter is in the hen house, I am going to raise the floor height further off the ground to provide enough clearance for the wheelbarrow to slide under it. The run door will be 4' wide to accommodate the wheelbarrow.

There are also quite a few "girly" design features that are more for eye-candy than function (iron lanterns, leaded glass panels, box planters). The planned coop is 20' off my back patio. I am hoping to do it an appealing manner that provides the anchor for another garden vignette. I know the plans are a bit extravagant but do not have the patience to do things multiple times. I would rather go all-out from the get-go and be entirely happy with the result.

Thanks again for your invaluable insight and suggestions. I really do appreciate the help.
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What do you do to secure the hen house from predators when you remove the windows for summer?


The window openings are covered on the inside with chicken wire. Some would say hardware cloth is necessary, but the chicken wire has repelled a couple of attempted breaches. I think how the wire is attached is much more critical than the type of wire used...but that's not a popular opinion.
 
The window openings are covered on the inside with chicken wire. Some would say hardware cloth is necessary, but the chicken wire has repelled a couple of attempted breaches. I think how the wire is attached is much more critical than the type of wire used...but that's not a popular opinion.
Thanks for the info. I have some heavy iron grates to upcycle that I originally intended to use on the floor. I will use them on my vents and window portals instead. I just might hang my crates on identical pin hinges to the windows. That way I can just interchange them as the weather dictates and the grates will not interfere with my "view" when the windows are on.

Thanks again.
 
Definitely provide updates and images from start to finish> You can enter the coop contest next year! Keep records on prices/expenses as well, so if someone is looking to build something similar, they will know how much they will be set back money wise
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When do you think you will start? I'm excited for you! Getting your first chickens is a wonderful experience, and one that can not be forgotten. I remember the day we went to pick up our first 4 chickens (don't even want to know how many we have now
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If you need any help deciding breeds, THAT I am good at
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I like friendly, productive and beautiful chickens. Lots of eye candy
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Thanks. Will do. I won't start on the coop for another couple of months, once the house renovations are complete and I have a pile of roofing shingles and siding in the garage. In the midst of planning for chickens, I am installing cabinets, building countertops, plumbing a sink, and tiling a backsplash myself. The roofing, siding, and, windows will be done by professionals.

If there is enough scrap from the Hardiplank being installed on the house, I may be able to use that instead of the salvageable wooden siding being taken off. Chicks won't even be an option until spring/summer so there is no real rush.

I will keep a log of materials and costs, but it would still be a bit tricky for someone else to do the same thing. Much of the materials choices stem from what was available free or inexpensively. Money will still be spent, but hopefully nothing near the scale expected for the quality of the finished product. Planning so far ahead gives me time to slowly accumulate my "treasures" for the build. I am considering planting things around the imaginary coop now so that they can establish root systems over the winter.

I am more than happy for chicken breed suggestions. My current favorite is the Belgian Bearded D'Uccle in the Mille Fleur color. My priority is "cute" bug-eaters. Bantams would allow for a slightly larger flock size. Eggs are a secondary consideration. Nothing that I have coddled and named will be eaten (hypocritical as it may be).

My biggest hurdle is the dogs. I have four indoor dogs, all rescues:
- 9yo 195lb male decrepit English Mastiff/Great Dane mix that could give a rat's *** if the chickens dance on his belly
- 6yo 105lb female Boerboel that PROBABLY won't care and is exceedingly well-trained
- 5yo 35lb male Basset/? toad of a dog that lives with me because no one would adopt a kitty eater.
- 1yo 45lb female Pit/? that is 14" tall and built like a pig with about as much agility, but loves to kill toys.

This is their HOME. I have just finished watching Bryan Pulliam's video on how to train "Instinct to In-Sync" and reading articles on training suggestions to implement now. The dogs are all very well trained, but may be sorely tested by flapping, squawking, feather-butts. I am using the next few months to work with the dogs on accepting chickens. We'll see how this goes...

The big guy is too old to go camping anymore, but here is a pick of the other three from a few weeks ago:



 
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Thanks for the info. I have some heavy iron grates to upcycle that I originally intended to use on the floor. I will use them on my vents and window portals instead. I just might hang my crates on identical pin hinges to the windows. That way I can just interchange them as the weather dictates and the grates will not interfere with my "view" when the windows are on.

Thanks again.

I like the idea of the grates for summer, but you might want to consider some chicken wire on the inside, too. Reason being is the transition seasons, when you still want the windows on, but would like to be able to open them partially.
 
Thanks. Will do. I won't start on the coop for another couple of months, once the house renovations are complete and I have a pile of roofing shingles and siding in the garage. In the midst of planning for chickens, I am installing cabinets, building countertops, plumbing a sink, and tiling a backsplash myself. The roofing, siding, and, windows will be done by professionals. If there is enough scrap from the Hardiplank being installed on the house, I may be able to use that instead of the salvageable wooden siding being taken off. Chicks won't even be an option until spring/summer so there is no real rush. I will keep a log of materials and costs, but it would still be a bit tricky for someone else to do the same thing. Much of the materials choices stem from what was available free or inexpensively. Money will still be spent, but hopefully nothing near the scale expected for the quality of the finished product. Planning so far ahead gives me time to slowly accumulate my "treasures" for the build. I am considering planting things around the imaginary coop now so that they can establish root systems over the winter. I am more than happy for chicken breed suggestions. My current favorite is the Belgian Bearded D'Uccle in the Mille Fleur color. My priority is "cute" bug-eaters. Bantams would allow for a slightly larger flock size. Eggs are a secondary consideration. Nothing that I have coddled and named will be eaten (hypocritical as it may be). My biggest hurdle is the dogs. I have four indoor dogs, all rescues: - 9yo 195lb male decrepit English Mastiff/Great Dane mix that could give a rat's *** if the chickens dance on his belly - 6yo 105lb female Boerboel that PROBABLY won't care and is exceedingly well-trained - 5yo 35lb male Basset/? toad of a dog that lives with me because no one would adopt a kitty eater. - 1yo 45lb female Pit/? that is 14" tall and built like a pig with about as much agility, but loves to kill toys. This is their HOME. I have just finished watching Bryan Pulliam's video on how to train "Instinct to In-Sync" and reading articles on training suggestions to implement now. The dogs are all very well trained, but may be sorely tested by flapping, squawking, feather-butts. I am using the next few months to work with the dogs on accepting chickens. We'll see how this goes... The big guy is too old to go camping anymore, but here is a pick of the other three from a few weeks ago:
Hey, my existing 2 dogs were AMAZING accepting the birds. Hopefully you will luck out as well. Some people have troubles, but mine are great. I do have a dog that hates cats as well, and is still awesome with the birds. I adore D'Uccles, and would definitely recommend them as a great pet bird. Not sure on their laying capabilities though.. They are very easy to tame and extremely loving. You can get any standard bird in a bantam size. I like silkies as well - they are a great breed and do very well with the placid D'Uccles - which is pronounced DE Uck illes by the way. Nothing worse than approaching a breeder of them and saying it as one word :lol: I also recommend cochins - another wonderful well tempered bird that loves humans. They look like a basketball and are very round. Also really cute are Favorelles.
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Silkie (one of my own) Also, if you are getting D'Uccles - it's best to stick with docile breeds. I also really love polish and Houdans. I love crested birds and ones with feathered feet :) You're going to want a non-setting type as well to keep you going when everyone is broody :lol:
 

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