I ordered chicks back in April from them, 10 black copper pullets and 5 dark brahmas straight run. The owner Joe agreed to throw in a couple of black copper roosters as there was no option for two. With shipping, the order totalled $240 but i was late getting my order in for black coppers so I was willing to pay it. August rolls around, I call several times and finally am told the chicks were shipped that day. The box arrives at the Post Office reeking of death, though it was presumably only in transit two days. Only two of the chicks had died, but one was so badly decomposed I had no other recourse than to assume it was already dead when placed in the box. And they in no way resembled what I ordered. There were 19 in the box, I lost an additional 4 of them as they were not particularly healthy, and now, a month later, have an assortment of white, blue, brown, spotted and a few black chicks, even one cuckoo or barred... Multiple calls to the hatchery were unanswered. Emails bounced back and at one time in late August the website was even offline. Oh and many more are showing as roosters than I ordered and NONE are brahmas, dark or otherwise. I began a Better Business Bureau claim as I discovered online other people were having problems. Just received the reply back from the hatchery that was inaccurate in what they say they sent, even though they admitted they sent black and blue marans and five bluebell pullets (whatever those are). Anyway, I am curious if I should even insist on a reshipment of the black copper pullets at this point or just chalk it up to a lesson learned. I have no use for assorted odd marans, really, other than to add those which are pullets to my layer flock. I had intended on beginning a breeding program to produce highly desired dark eggs for the local farmers market. Sigh.