Anyone have a current APA manual handy?

[Rare Feathers Farm]

If so, I'd like to know what the APA standard says about the WEIGHT of the large fowl Sumtras...for both sexes and young/old birds...please....I'd found differing opinions online so I'd like to know "the truth."

Thanks!

~Heather~

 

[Sunny the Hippie Chick]

Did you look at the APA website. They should have one..

Just didnt want this thread to get lost in the shuffle..

 

[Chris09]

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Heather,


Cocks --------- 5 lbs. Hens ----- 4 lbs.
Cockerel ----- 4 lbs. Pullets---- 3 1/2 lbs.

Chris

 

[Rare Feathers Farm]

That's what I thought...and that's the size of my birds...however, the judge this weekend said my pullet was "too small" and the pullet that beat her weighed more. The roosters, I could not believe the size of them compared to mine! I did not bring mine to show but OMG! These things were probably 10-12lbs with legs like Cornish.

 

[karabbitry]

I know that we should all breed towards the standard but I have noticed that just like lots of other things in America, we tend to like bigger and bigger. This is the same case with Poultry. I think if you put the top winning white rocks on a scale they would be way over...just the current trends. Not that it is right, just how it is.

 

[Rare Feathers Farm]

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Yeah, it's sad. They should either change the standard or go with what's been....just my opinion, though.

I see that you have WFBS? Do you show them? I've been looking for some high-quality breeders for a while now to improve one of my (many) projects.

 

[jeaucamom]

I thought you meant APA as in American Psychological Association.. the standard for writing report and thesis. I was already with my online version to help you look up a citation..

geesh what do I know

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[charlieschickens]

One thing that also need to be looked at is that these birds were not normally a small bird. They heavier birds are probably more true to the "old" Sumatras. Way too often people are focused on the APA/ABA standards, that original characteristics of breeds are lost.

 

[NYREDS]

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Assuming for purposes of this discussion that this is acurate it's irrelevant. The OP was responding to a situation involving showing per the APA Standard. If you plan on showing at sanctioned shows in the US then the APA & ABA Standards are what you need to adhere to unless you don't care about placing or winning.

 

[charlieschickens]

But are those maximum weights? And I am not trying to be a smartelic, but just asking. It says they should weigh at least that, correct? I think that it is very relevant that the show world is changing animals...and not always for the better.