Anyone have info on Olive Eggers

[Diamond Peno]

I have 3 olive Eggers... I have been reading up on them some as well. I have one Roo (Hawk Eye aka Hawky) and 2 hens Pocahontas (Punky because of her head feathers) and Dream Catcher (dreamy) My neighbor has more and possibly one Roo as we got them together. I just wanted 3...
My question is if my Roster covers the hens would that make more Oliver Eggers or ture ones? I have read some say yes, no or it would be an F1 then breed back to the Martin or Ameraucanas to get pures. I get chickens are not like breeding dogs sometimes just because you have 2 pure (from crossing others to make it) don't mean they are pure.... (hope you get what I mean)
Also one of mine an his has fluffy feathers on their head reminds me of his Polish Roo... and I read up that Polish can be used in the breeding line as there are 2 lines but BOTH have Ameraucanas in them. My hubby says she reminds him of a roadrunner lol
Also I have and Easter Egger Roster... if I can't use the Olive Egger Roo can i use the Easter Egger Roo if I get lighter eggs ok... not looking to really get pure pure but keep the green in the line.
Also If I can't use the Oliver Egger Roo for my Olive hens for breeding what could I use him to breed with?
Pictures are what mine look like feel free to share what yours look like.

 

[Hyroler]

I have few Olive Eggers that I got by crossing Copper Maran(Rooster) with Easter Eggers and Americaunas.I just hatched some Easter egger crossed with Olive egger but won't know what color eggs I will get for few months.

 

[Diamond Peno]

If I breed my Roster Olive to my Hen Olives would that not make them olive's to? or pure or would that be like an f1? I have owned chickens for years for pets/eggs an I collect their feather for crafts an sell them for fly tying... BUT never got in to breeding them like I have my bunnies, rats, mice lol
I have had a hen in both chickens and ducks hatch some eggs out other their own but had so many males anyone could have been the dad. lol. I have not tried to selectively breed them. BUT want t try this year with some and when my olive eggers are ready.

 

[Hyroler]

If I breed my Roster Olive to my Hen Olives would that not make them olive's to? or pure or would that be like an f1? I have owned chickens for years for pets/eggs an I collect their feather for crafts an sell them for fly tying... BUT never got in to breeding them like I have my bunnies, rats, mice lol
I have had a hen in both chickens and ducks hatch some eggs out other their own but had so many males anyone could have been the dad. lol. I have not tried to selectively breed them. BUT want t try this year with some and when my olive eggers are ready.

Olive Eggers are not pure breeds they are Easter Eggers that lay Olive Green eggs.If your question is "If I breed Oliver Egger to Olive egger am I guaranteed a olive colored egg?" The answer is "No" With mixed breed it's never 100% guarantee you will get same color but there is very good chance.I would say if you hatched 10 Olive egger eggs 7 out of 10 will be Olive color other 3 blue or brown.

 

[lomine]

If your OE are first generation that means they all carry one blue egg gene and one white egg gene (brown egg is brown coating over white egg). That means each offspring has a 50% at one blue/one white, 25% chance at two blue, and a 25% chance at two white. The blue egg gene is dominate so if a hen has at least one she will lay a blue egg. Two white egg genes means no blue or green eggs. The genes for brown coating are a little more complicated (and outside my basic knowledge of genetics) but you'll get a majority of green eggs but there also a pretty big chance of just brown eggs.

Your EE rooster may be pure for blue eggs (two blue egg genes) or he could have one blue/one white. There's also a chance he doesn't carry the blue egg gene at all. Unless you want to do a DNA test, the only way to test would be to breed him to a white layer. If all his daughters lay blue eggs he is likely pure. If some lay blue and some white he carries a one egg gene. If none lay blue he has two white. He may also have genes from brown coatings. I'm not sure how that would play with the dark coating of the OE, it might dilute the darker color and give lighter eggs.

If your OE are not first generation, then you'll have to breed them to figure out what they carry.

 

[Hyroler]

If your OE are first generation that means they all carry one blue egg gene and one white egg gene (brown egg is brown coating over white egg). That means each offspring has a 50% at one blue/one white, 25% chance at two blue, and a 25% chance at two white. The blue egg gene is dominate so if a hen has at least one she will lay a blue egg. Two white egg genes means no blue or green eggs. The genes for brown coating are a little more complicated (and outside my basic knowledge of genetics) but you'll get a majority of green eggs but there also a pretty big chance of just brown eggs.

Your EE rooster may be pure for blue eggs (two blue egg genes) or he could have one blue/one white. There's also a chance he doesn't carry the blue egg gene at all. Unless you want to do a DNA test, the only way to test would be to breed him to a white layer. If all his daughters lay blue eggs he is likely pure. If some lay blue and some white he carries a one egg gene. If none lay blue he has two white. He may also have genes from brown coatings. I'm not sure how that would play with the dark coating of the OE, it might dilute the darker color and give lighter eggs.

If your OE are not first generation, then you'll have to breed them to figure out what they carry.

Being that OE and EE are not pure breeds.You can not predict what egg color gene will be past on or dominant with offspring.I have hatched eggs from same EE Rooster and OE Hen with different results .offspring with different color and feather patterns and blue,brown,light green,Olive green and pink eggs.

 

[BrindleFinch]

You can't give the specifics for each individual offspring, no. But it can be predicted in general.

If one parent is BW (blue gene, white gene) they have a 50% chance of passing on either one. If both parents are that way, you have BW, BW, BB, WW. 2:4, 1:4, 1:4. 50% and 25%, respectively.

Blue being "dominant" just means that it will display over white in the phenotype - basically, it's rock-paper-scissors, but blue beats white instead of something like paper beats rock ~

The pattern will be consistent if they are first generation heterozygotes; but you can't predict how each individual egg will hatch, for example.

 

[Hyroler]

Exactly but unless you knew genealogy for both rooster and hen.since ee and oe are mixed it's almost impossible to predict egg color with 100% accuracy.
My mother, father, and both their parents all have black hair brown eyes.I have blue eyes light brown hair.Daughter has blonde hair blue eyes.Her Mother and grand parents on mother side have brown eyes brown hair.Blue eye color isn't supposed to be dominate gene yet me and my daughter have blue eyes.I have 3,siblings all brown eyes.

 

[BrindleFinch]

Blue is not dominant. The reason most of your family is brown eyed is specifically because blue is recessive

Simplified, you need 2 blue genes to have blue eyes - so your children will ALL have a hidden blue gene, even if their eyes are brown. Your grandparents had recessive, hidden blues.

The calculations are made on the assumption that x scenario is true. It's just an example of what the offspring would be like if the conditions were met.

 

[lomine]

Being that OE and EE are not pure breeds.You can not predict what egg color gene will be past on or dominant with offspring.I have hatched eggs from same EE Rooster and OE Hen with different results .offspring with different color and feather patterns and blue,brown,light green,Olive green and pink eggs.

If they are first generation created from two pure breeds you can estimate the percentage of offspring that will carry a blue egg gene. All first generation OE and EE created by mixing two breeds will carry one blue egg gene and one white egg gene. The blue egg gene is always dominate no matter what. If a EE or OE hen doesn't lay a blue or green egg she doesn't carry a blue egg gene. As I said, the brown coating genes are more complicated and can't always be predicted.