Anyone up for a Hatchalong?

[yinepu]

darn i never saw this response. ok heres my weights so far:
egg #1:
2-6 608g
2-7 605g
2-8 603g
2-9 601g
egg#2
2-6 500g
2-7 497g
2-8 496g
2-9 494g
egg#3
2-6 665g
2-7 662g
2-8 661g
2-9 659g
egg#4
2-6 514g
2-7 511g
2-8 510g
2-9 508g

so do i need to ad water to my bator? seems like the weights on 2-8 (yesterday) were good cause they only lost 1 gram. now today they were down 2 again.. prob too much right? yikes i need to adjust fast..

you're shooting for 15% weight loss over 50 days +/- 1.2%

so for egg #1 you need a loss of 1.824% per day ..12.768 grams per week (this is assuming you are incubating at 97.5 degrees, 15% weight loss.. higher or lower temperatures will change the day 50 due date and change your projected weight loss accordingly)

egg #1:
2-6 608g
2-7 605g (should be: 606.176)
2-8 603g (604.352)
2-9 601g (602.528)

at 20% loss you would be in the danger zone and your numbers would look like this :
608
605.568
603.136
600.704
so egg 1 needs a higher humidity


egg#2 needs to lose 75 grams through the 50 day incubation period.. 1.5 grams per day.. 10.5 per week
2-6 500g
2-7 497g (498.5)
2-8 496g (497)
2-9 494g (495.5)

at 20% loss you would be in the danger zone and your numbers would look like this :
500
498
496
494
so egg 2 also needs higher humidity

egg#3 needs to lose 99.75 grams 1.995 grams per day 13.965 grams a week
2-6 665g
2-7 662g (663.005)
2-8 661g (661.01)
2-9 659g (659.015)

at 20% loss you would be in the danger zone and your numbers would look like this :
665
662.34
659.68
657.02
so egg 3 looks to be on track now even though the loss was a bit too high on the second day

egg#4 needs to lose 77.1 grams .. 1.542 grams per day .. 10.794 grams a week
2-6 514g
2-7 511g (512.458)
2-8 510g (510.916)
2-9 508g (509.374)

at 20% loss you would be in the danger zone and your numbers would look like this:
514
511.944
509.888
507.832
egg 4 is borderline.. could use a little more moisture but isn't as bad as the first 2


hope this helps and I think my math is correct!

I don't remember what kind of incubator you are using.. but it could be as simple as rotating the positions of the eggs (in relationship to the fan) once a day as well as adding a bit of water to raise your humidity

 

[birdbrain5]

ok thank you so much! i added water over night and it was gone this morning, so i added more. im only adding a small cap full at a time, im affraid to add too much at once. so at 6:00 tonight i will weigh again and see how they did with a little higher humidity.
being 5 days in and having lost a little too much weight, am i destine for a bad or failed hatch?

im using my mini fridge incubator. i did swap eggs around, and my fan is hitting the eggs. should it not be? i never had trouble or worry about the fans position when hatching other eggs, but never thought about it. should i maybe just point the fan at the wall, or will this not move the air enough?

i also meant to add that my scale doesnt measure too precisely, it either rounds up or rounds down, so i dont get a weight like 662.5, its either just 662 or 663. so its hard to say if my weights are either rounding higher or lower than it says. i wish i knew before i bought the scale..

ETA: my hygrometers are so off. can anyone recomend a good one? i have gone through so many and they are never accurate. im basically going by the eggs weights to know to adjust humidity or not..

 

[yinepu]

ok thank you so much! i added water over night and it was gone this morning, so i added more. im only adding a small cap full at a time, im affraid to add too much at once. so at 6:00 tonight i will weigh again and see how they did with a little higher humidity.
being 5 days in and having lost a little too much weight, am i destine for a bad or failed hatch?

im using my mini fridge incubator. i did swap eggs around, and my fan is hitting the eggs. should it not be? i never had trouble or worry about the fans position when hatching other eggs, but never thought about it. should i maybe just point the fan at the wall, or will this not move the air enough?

i also meant to add that my scale doesnt measure too precisely, it either rounds up or rounds down, so i dont get a weight like 662.5, its either just 662 or 663. so its hard to say if my weights are either rounding higher or lower than it says. i wish i knew before i bought the scale..

ETA: my hygrometers are so off. can anyone recomend a good one? i have gone through so many and they are never accurate. im basically going by the eggs weights to know to adjust humidity or not..

you should be fine if you can get the loss under control.. I have a few that have also lost too much (didn't have the book with the calculations at the time since i had lent it to someone and they lost it.. so I had to buy a new one).. mine can still be salvaged which I am working on now.. but they are a lot farther into their incubation.. so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them. I may end up having to assist the hatch by adding moisture to each egg when hatch time comes if they have still lost too much weight and are dehydrated.. hoping to avoid that.. but will do what needs to be done if it comes down to it.
My "problem eggs" were also in a mini fridge type bator (Reptipro 5000).. so every morning I rotated them around some which did help.. so I think the rotating them away from the fan every day plus some additional humidity and you should be fine.. you might also consider making some sort of shield between the fan and the eggs.. so the air is diffused around the eggs instead of directly at them... having it blow at the wall may also help.. but keep an eye on your temperature since I don't know how changing the air flow will affect your thermostat.. I would hate for the eggs to fry because of airflow restriction.. you know how your bator is set up.. so you'll have to experiment and be the judge of what goes on there.

my scale does the same as yours.. so just get as close as possible .. I gave the full numeric values since I didn't know what kind of scale you were using and if you rounded them up or down or not when you made your weight notations..

for emu eggs go by weight more so than the hygrometer since they will be incubating for a longer period of time and the weight will give you a better idea of your humidity needs...
I bought my hygrometers from Amazon (they can be adjusted) and I really like them for chickens, ducks and quail.. but I am finding that the weight loss of emu eggs tells me a whole lot more since the porosity of their shells and fan location makes a bigger difference than the reading on the hygrometer

 

[msheets]

It's my first weigh in day!

Day 1
A-671.8
B-653.2
C-671.1
D-681.3
E-672.8

Day 7
A-657.5 14.3g loss 2.13%
B-639.1 14.1g loss 2.16%
C-660.0 11.1g loss 1.66%
D-666.8 14.5g loss 2.13%
E-660.9 11.9g loss 1.77%

 

[Raptor65]

I just use my hydrometer as a way of reading changes in humidity even if it isn't accurate, it really just tells me if the water is starting to run low between morning and night and if the humidity isn't staying steady, right now it reads 66% but I know that's not true. I've found it to be easier to just make a graph to track the weight loss and adjust the amount of water from there.

Like this:


On day 7 I decided to leave the humidity the way I had it in case it just needed another week to really settle and stabilize because of how little it dropped, but by the day 14 it was obvious that the humidity needed to be increased, and on day 21 I increased it again to hopefully lower the weight loss a bit and push the blue and yellow lines back up toward their projected weight loss, then I should be able to go back to the same humidity I had between day 14 and 21 for the remaining days. With 4 weeks left I should have plenty of time to make changes if I need to.

Plus with this I could just have easily weighed every 5 days or less if I wanted, allowing even more opportunity to adjust the humidity.

 

[The Sheriff]

Raptor, your eggs are sure bigger than the ones I incubated. My largest, which didn't hatch was around 660 grams I think. Little Elvis was the smallest egg and that is why I think he is a little runt chick. Loveable little runt chick!

I am enjoying you guys with you updates! Does anyone know how many people are still in the hatch-a-long. We weren't as organized as the chicken egg hatch-a-longs but they only have to keep it together for 21 days!

Good luck!

 

[farmerChef]

Today is day 45 for my first (of 2) eggs!!!

that it hatches, they both have been rooling when I turn them.

 

[yinepu]

Today is day 45 for my first (of 2) eggs!!!

that it hatches, they both have been rooling when I turn them.

have they wiggled?.. or just rolled?

 

[yinepu]

Raptor, your eggs are sure bigger than the ones I incubated. My largest, which didn't hatch was around 660 grams I think. Little Elvis was the smallest egg and that is why I think he is a little runt chick. Loveable little runt chick!

I am enjoying you guys with you updates! Does anyone know how many people are still in the hatch-a-long. We weren't as organized as the chicken egg hatch-a-longs but they only have to keep it together for 21 days!

Good luck!

my largest one is 681.. i have two that were 660
So I think Raptor holds the record for heaviest egg so far.. lol

edited.. oops.. i had that wrong.. my heaviest was 684 grams... so many eggs...

 

[yinepu]

weigh ins from yesterday and today:

A (from Elberta, Alabama)
day 1 625 grams
On January 20, (day 7) 615 (10 g lost or 1.60%)
On January 27, (day 14) 595 (20 g lost or 3.25%)
On February 3 (day 21) 580 (15 g or 2.52%).. total lost so far: 45g 7.2%
On February 10 (day 28) 565 (15 g or 2.59%) .. total lost so far 60g 9.6%

A-2 (from Elberta, Alabama)
day 1 594 grams
On January 27, (day 7) 584 (10 g lost or 1.68%)
On February 3, (day 14) 571 (13 g lost or 2.23%)
On February 10 (day 21) 560 (11g lost or 1.93%) total lost so far 34g 5.72%

D-1 (from Sonora, California)
day 1 505 grams
On January 27, (day 7) 496 (9 g lost or 1.78%)
On February 3, (day 14) 486 (10 g lost or 2.01%)
On February 10 (day 21) 477 (9 g lost or 1.85%) .. total lost so far 28g 5.54%

D-2
day 1 582 grams
On January 27, (day 7) 571 (11 g lost or 1.89%)
On February 3, (day 14) 559 (12 g lost or 2.10%)
On February 10 (day 21) 548 (11g lost or 1.97%) .. total lost so far 34g 5.84%

A1-J (from Heston, Kansas)
day 1: 639 grams
On January 28, (day 7) 628 (11 g lost or 1.72%)
On February 4, (day 14) 616 (12 g lost or 1.91%)
On February 11 (day 21) 603 (13 g lost or 2.11%) total lost so far 36g 5.63%

A2-J
day 1: 542 grams
On January 28, (day 7) 532 (10 g lost or 1.85%)
On February 4, (day 14) 522 (10 g lost or 1.88%)
On February 11 (day 21) 512 (10g lost or 1.91%) total lost so far 30g 5.54%

C4-A
day 1: 660 grams
On January 28, (day 7) 649 (11 g lost or 1.67%)
On February 4, (day 14) 637 (12 g lost or 1.85%)
On February 11 (day 21) 625 (12g lost or 1.88%) total lost so far 35g 5.30%

D4-J
day 1: 684 grams
On January 28, (day 7) 668 (16 g lost or 2.34%)
On February 4, (day 14) 653 (15 g lost or 2.25%)
On February 11 (day 21) 637 (16g lost or 2.45%) total lost so far 47g 6.87%