Applying Permectin Fly & Louse Dust?

[marbekschicks]

What is the best and easiest way to apply Permectin Fly & Louse Dust? I already have it as that is what my store carries. The label reads 1 lb./100 birds and it's a 2 lb. container.

My 14 silkies will be 7 weeks old Wednesday. I believe they came from where I got them with the bugs as I have only had them indoors since getting them.

 

[purpletree23]

Do the birds have lice or mites or something else?

Not only do you have to dust the birds but you have to clean their coop from top to bottom. Take everything out, sweep it well and use a liquid bug killer on the wall cracks and the cracks in the walls. Air it out very well for a few hours. Sprinkle the floor with a good amount of Sevin dust and add 5 inches of new bedding.

Have someone help you dust the chickens. Have them hold the chicken and both of you should wear gloves. Sprinkle about a teaspoon worth of dust on their tummies, back and vent area. Try to work it through to the base of the feathers. If they have lice you could dip them in a bath prepared with dog dip solution. Either way after treating wait 7 days and re treat them because any eggs that have not hatched will hatch and you have to kill them. It will stop the cycle.

If they are not on a worming schedule. start that also. Worm in the spring and fall.

 

[marbekschicks]

I'm not sure if it's lice or mites or both. I saw one bug run across by the vent of my smallest silkie. It looked grayish in color. All my silkies are eating well, but their feathers look all dull and ruffled. I have also had a brown bug jump on me off a silkie. They aren't near as nice looking as my older silkies that are out in the coop and run area. I have these younger silkies in the house yet. I will be changing their temporary home inside to a different one as they are in 2 huge cardboard boxes taped together.

I got the Permectin Fly & Louse Dust because the people at the Agway store said it was what I needed to treat both lice and mites even though the bottle said mites.

Now I need to learn about worming.

Thank you.

 

[threehorses]

Are the bugs long or like dots? If they're dots, they're mites. (You can only see them at night on the birds, and then rarely). IF they're long, they're lice. (They stay on the bird.)

If lice, you can fill a knee-high panty-hose with the permethrin and use that to dust them. Or use the shaker can. I find it easier to shake a little onto my (gloved) hand and apply that to the bird - under the wing, at the vent, on the chest, back of neck, etc. Ruffle the feathers to get it all in their feathers and against their skin. In fact I had to do it today as a follow-up to last month's lice treatment. (thanks to either a goat or some vulture).

Also dust under the bedding (scrape aside, dust, return bedding) and in the bedding (dust bedding, stir in) and nest boxes.

On the mites, you can get "goat lice spray" (also permethrin) and spray the wood of the walls, the nest boxes, the eyes and joints in the coop. mites stay off of the birds so you must treat those areas.

Redo everything in 7 days twice.

Personally I do not recommend Sevin as it's carbryl and we're learning more about how it's a bad chemical to deal with. I believe it's even being taken off of the market completely this year.

Incidentally on the worming, worm FIRST with wazine (piperazine). then in 2-4 weeks worm with a broad spectrum full wormer like fenbendazole (wormazole, safeguard etc) or pour-on ivermectin. If you follow up with the pour-on ivermectin (5% ivermectin cattle wormer blue liquid) that will also kill the hatched external mites/lice. You still have to treat the premises though always.

 

[marbekschicks]

Do I need to treat my whole house? And with what for a house? They are in my one bathroom in 2 huge cardboard boxes taped together. All that will be gotten rid of when we treat them and replaced with completely new cardboard boxes and bedding. The box is located on top of a large mteal crate up off the floor about 2 feet.

Edited to add the one I saw on the bird was more like a dot. The bug that got on me was longer. They were 2 totally different things. Won't the Permethrin in the Permectin Fly & Louse Dust treat both as the store had said?

 

[threehorses]

If they're in the house, just replace the cardboard boxes. Walmart usually gives theirs away gladly. Then dust the birds. You'll be in much better luck.

Just check the birds carefully - look for the actual bugs. Can you find them?