Araucana thread anyone?

[Illia]

Muffs cannot hide, they're dominant. Having even one allele shows up. In fact, I'm curious how you have a purebred muffed Araucana. Unless Canada imported some recently from other countries, it would be an EE.

But, I'd say use it in an Olive Egger/Easter Egger project. Does it have green legs? Yellow soles? Yellow skin?

 

[cluckcluck42]

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Well I just ran out to check his legs and he has very light slate whitey/yellow colour of legs. The girl has whitey yellow legs. I checked the roos skin colour and it looks white. Will yellow skin look obviously yellow?

As for the muffs, I can't speak for the breeder so I have no idea. There are, however, far more tails than I had expected. I really have no idea. It is very hard to find true Araucanas up here, so I am not displeased with these guys at all -it is a great starting point. But I can safely assume that they could not compete with what breeders in the US have. I'm importing stock from a member on here who thankfully is willing to take part in the process. It's a costly endeavour but if I want good bloodlines I think importing is my only option. I could just bring some over and pretend they are for eating but I'd rather do it legally since I plan to sell the offspring and the fines are ginormous if someone where to 'rat us out'.

So, for my own curiosity, a bird cannot carry both a muff and tuff gene? Let's say I did breed these two together (which I am not going to now) would the offspring with tufts 'carry' the muff gene? Lets say I bred a tufted bird from that mix to a clean faced bird. There is no chance of muffs popping up? Sorry, I am clueless when it comes to genetics! And very curious!

 

[syble]

tuffs and muffs are both domanent, that is to say if the bird carries the gene, even 1 copy, you will see it. so if you bred to a clean faced and you got some clean faced babies, it means the parent only has 1 copy of the gene and the clean faced babies when bred together cannot produce anything else. they cannot hide that gene.
hope that helps
Sib

 

[cluckcluck42]

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Thank you!! I was actually going to ask you when I emailed you some pics today!

 

[RioLindoAz]

I thought Araucana's looked like this?

 

[syble]

there seam to be a range of standards depending on the country your in. US, Canada and Mexico go off the APA standard as far as i know, which for araucanas involves, no tail, no muffs and no beard, but the addition of tuffts out the side of the head. the bird pictured according to the APA standard is more so an ameracana. they have all those features and no tufts.
Sib

 

[cackleberrycoop]

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Awesomely cool bird, but no, not an Araucana per the American standards. That bird does look a lot like the American Ameraucanas, but has the "mohok" thing on the top of his head like the Araucanas that I have seen photos of in Australia. What country is that boy from?

 

[Illia]

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That there is exactly why so many people think their EE's are Araucanas.

No, in Australia, as Feathersite specifically says, which most people don't bother reading, the standard asks for a crest or tail as well as muffs and beard. As you've clearly seen from all the Araucanas shown on this thread, American standards call for NO tail, no muffs/beard, no slate legs, and only tufts.

The reason they differ out there and especially in Europe why the standard is so loose on what is allowed is because they don't have Ameraucanas.

 

[cackleberrycoop]

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Crest, that's the word I could not for the life of me remember. It was really bothering me, while I was running my errands. So thanks Illia, I can now let go of that small but big annoyance. Crest, yeah.

 

[cashdl]

I read that it is difficult to keep both muffs and tufts on a bird. It seems that the muffs win out. It is not recommended to try to pair muffs and tufts. I have seen pics of birds with muffs and tufts, in fact Ann Cushing has one, however my understanding is your pairing competing genes. In the book "Araucana Ring in their ears", she says that she knew of people that tried to keep both muffs and tufts in their flock but eventually lost all tufts.

Tufts are hard enough to get. I wouldn't add something else in the mix if it were me.

Lanae