Araucana thread anyone?

This gigantamongo chick was sold as an Araucana. It is almost 6 weeks old, as are the other chicks in the picture (a couple gold laced cochins, a silkie and a silver sebright cockerel). It is rumpless, appears to have a peacomb, doesnt seem to have much, if any, tuffs. Is it a true Araucana? And, what color is it? I have never had a chick of any bread with this coloring. She is white and tan/grey/brown. She is HUGE and rather a bully to her "sisters". She will actually stomp them with her giant feet. And she is not at all friendly and hates to be handled.
It may have some Oriental Game in it, like Thai, Malay or Shamo. I have some Thai/EEs that are tall and upright.
 
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This gigantamongo chick was sold as an Araucana. It is almost 6 weeks old, as are the other chicks in the picture (a couple gold laced cochins, a silkie and a silver sebright cockerel). It is rumpless, appears to have a peacomb, doesnt seem to have much, if any, tuffs. Is it a true Araucana? And, what color is it? I have never had a chick of any bread with this coloring. She is white and tan/grey/brown. She is HUGE and rather a bully to her "sisters". She will actually stomp them with her giant feet. And she is not at all friendly and hates to be handled.






Holy moley, definitely not Araucana....


Looks like a Royal Palm TURKEY poult! They are a beautiful black and white small turkey - the Tom's are just gorgeous.

Vickie et al
Kelso, WA.
 
I would like to encourage those of you that have recently posted and found out that you may not have the true araucana, to read through this thread. There are many who started their love affair with the araucana by inadvertently purchasing Easter Eggers. Often times it is that first EE that gets you curious enough to want to know more about the breed. So, if you have time, start at the beginning of the thread. There is a lot of great info here and helpful people that get you started with the "real deal" if you choose to pursue it. They will soon become your favorite breed!
 
Looks like a Royal Palm TURKEY poult! They are a beautiful black and white small turkey - the Tom's are just gorgeous.

Vickie et al
Kelso, WA.

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GOOOD GAAAWWD I HOPE ITS NOT A TURKEY!!! As pretty as they are (and it would make sense because she is HUGE and not very nice), I wouldn't know what to do with a turkey. They had quite a few of chicks just like her when I got her (they were all a few days old). They were the only standard sized chicks they had. Of course, the folks at the store had no idea what was what and tried to tell me the cochins were silkies and the "Araucana's were cochins, and the "mystery chick", which was the sebright, was just a small "cochin", aka Araucana. I had to tell them what all their chicks were,
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GOOOD GAAAWWD I HOPE ITS NOT A TURKEY!!! As pretty as they are (and it would make sense because she is HUGE and not very nice), I wouldn't know what to do with a turkey. They had quite a few of chicks just like her when I got her (they were all a few days old). They were the only standard sized chicks they had. Of course, the folks at the store had no idea what was what and tried to tell me the cochins were silkies and the "Araucana's were cochins, and the "mystery chick", which was the sebright, was just a small "cochin", aka Araucana. I had to tell them what all their chicks were,
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Looks like the Columbian pattern.Like in brahma or Wyandotte and other breeds also.
 
Thanks cluckcluckluke I wish spell check would work on this post via smart phone! Like I have on my BB maybe I should add to all my post "please excuse he brevity of this message as it was remotely sent without spell check or my admin"
 
Niether of these are true,
Ameraucanas are a different breed, not just tailed Araucanas. They have beards(muffs), not tufts, they are also different sizes, annd have other slight differences

When you breed Lavendar(Self Blue) to black, you get all black split for lavendar. Lavendar is a recessive gene, so both parents must have a copy for the chick to show it.
I think you mean blue, but blue to black will not get you any splash either.
Blue x Black = 50% blue, 50% black
Blue x Blue = 50% Blue, 25% splash, 25% black
Splash x Blue = 50% splash, 50% blue
Splash x Splash = 100% Splash
Black x Splash = 100% blue
Black x Black = 100% black

Forgive me, but I am now utterly confused - NOT by what you have said here farmerChef, that was very helpful especially the second sentence, but by the number of posts that claim the Ameraucana IS the only accepted and approved bird from the original Chilean Araucana by show people in the U.S. ... ( that is rumpless, beautiful colours, no head muff etc. ). The Australian bred Araucana ( which is the only name they go by here I believe ) usually is white, or lavender/white, wheaten/white, cuckoo etc., has a lovely muff on the head, two small tufts either side of the face, no wattles, a pea comb and a very nice upright tail. As a show bird or pure bred, that would not be acceptable to the standards in the U.S. So - are we talking about two distinctly different breeds, that have come from the original Chilean Araucana's, by breed development, or what ? I have what is classed an Araucana myself. She has a beautiful high muff of feathers on her head, small tufts either side of her face, a nice fluffy 'muff' beneath her beak, a lovely upright tail, sprinklings of what I think might be cuckoo or gold cuckoo through her originally all white feathers - and she lays blueish to olive coloured eggs. ( has only just started to lay this week - in our Autumn ?? ). She makes the most extraordinary sounds for a chicken, and yesterday I went outside to see if we had a duck in the back garden, as she was QUACKING ! I kid you not. She makes gutteral noises in her throat, an occasional try at a real rooster crow, a few chicken clucks here and there, and some very odd moaning croaky sounds, especially when she wants out of her coop. I keep her separated from my 3 other larger chickens as they don't like her much, and tend to have a real go at her.

Anyway, there seems to be such a huge variety of opinions on what is, or is not an Araucana / Ameraucana ? I have seen on BYC, where people have shown pics. of their rumpless beautifully coloured birds - and they have called them Araucana's ? Anyone who can help me to be a little less confused - it would be much appreciated. Below are several photo's of "Mindy" - my Araucana. She is about 6 months old now.


Mindy at 9 weeks old - with dear little Moppit behind her ( Moppit did not survive a nasty infection about 2 months back )



Mindy - 7 weeks ago.

The next two photographs were taken today ( 23 April 2013 ).








So - now what is she please ? Just an Aussie Araucana ? has she something else in her ? is that gold cuckoo colouring ???

Sorry to be pesky in asking so many questions - thought someone out there might help. She's a gorgeous chook, and loves being cuddled.

Cheers,
AB
 
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In the US the only acceptable araucana as far as showing is concerned is a rumpless, tufted bird falling into the correct class of colors. The ameraucana is a completely different bird. In Australia you have a completely different set of standards for showing. Yours would be considered European araucana. In Germany and a couple of other countries there are several standard descriptions which involve beards, muffs, tufts and so on.

Your birds fall under the standard for Australia. As far as her color, I don't know. As far as two different breeds, yes that is what they are. Their genetics is very different. About the only thing they share in common is the blue egg gene.

By the way, she is really a very lovely girl.

Lanae
 
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