Araucana thread anyone?

[VillageChicken]

cluckcluck42:

Your boy has a small beard, he probably only carries one gene for bearded. Here where I live almost all Araucanas are bearded.
It is a dominant gene, which means up to half of his offspring could show beards. But I like them!, and unless you plan to show, they look cool with tufts.

 

[VillageChicken]

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It can. BBS is the most dominant, and the duckwing is recessive to it. There's a discussion on a similar topic here: http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=88557 Some BBS are based on ER, some on E. E is the most dominant, ER is next.

If your hen and rooster have any duckwing in their background, they could be hiding the duckwing genes, though only 1/4th of their offspring at most would pop up duckwing.
Duckwings born with extra black melanizers from BBS parents are called brassybacks in the Old English Game world I believe.
Here is a picture of the european version of Araucana duckwing with melanizers:

European araucanas don't all stand like that. I just think they're freaked out by the camera. Body type and carriage is the same here.

I have a tufted and bearded black rooster that showed some brown in his juvenile feathers. I am curious if he carries something as well.

 

[cackleberrycoop]

Hello Village Chicken and welcome to the discussion

Are you saying that any BBS built on extended black, the blue does a better job of completely altering the black than the blue gene that is built on Birchen does at covering the Birchen?
In Hungary, the standard for blue Araucana, does it call for self blue, or do you guys want the lacing on the feathers like the standard over here calls for?
What a joy to see your Araucana photo!

 

[Illia]

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Hah, - It's an Easter Egger, sorry.

Araucanas are pretty rare, and don't come in random assortments with common hatchery-sold breeds like Orpingtons. Araucanas do NOT always have a stripe on their back, in fact, you'd need a duckwing colored Araucana to have such. Otherwise they're black, blue, white, solid yellow, black with a white dot on their head, blue with a white dot on their head, brown and white, solid brown, the list can go on. . .

If someone told you something silly like Araucanas always have stripes as a chick, they're extremely misinformed. Easter Eggers are the ones to usually look like chipmunks. And I'm especially guessing your Easter Egger is originally from, or its parents were from, Murray McMurray. They're the last and only hatchery left that call their chicks Araucanas. The rest of them call their chicks Ameraucanas (which is still wrong of course)


Oh and of course - The tufts you're noticing are probably muffs.

There's a difference. If she's got fluff underneath her beak, and if her "tufts" are made of fluff and not completely developing, curling feathers . . . . They're muffs. A common Easter Egger trait to carry.

 

[cluckcluck42]

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That is what I was thinking. I also like the beards too. This rooster is just too gorgeous not to use him. The pattern is just WOW.
I've actually got really excellent Araucana stock for my area (and a lot of Canada). It's very hard to find good stock up here. I am quite pleased with my little flock.

Is there a name for his pattern? maybe no one else thinks this but it looks egyptian to me lol.

 

[VillageChicken]

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I think both E and ER blacks and blues both can leak if they are missing some melanizing genes. I don't think that E based blues cover better than ER blues. Just that E is dominant to ER. So a split E/ER will look more E than ER. So if ER can hide e+ wild type "duckwing", then even more an extended black E based blue could. I don't have a lot of breeding experience with BBS, but I love the genetics part, and have studied and read extensively on it.

The blues I have seen here look very similar to the ones I've seen on this site. Some are beautifully laced and fairly uniform in color with a darker hackle. I've not actually looked at the feathers closely though. Do U.S. blue araucanas actually have a darker edge on the feather, like a laced wyandotte or is it just the hairs around the feather that grab more pigment? Some blues here fade to lighter shade of blue toward the tail, and many, many I have seen leak gold. Some of the blues I have seen have a beautiful salmon colored breast with lacing. Probably not desired, but very nice.

Most stock here in Hungary comes from Germany. The pics I posted are actually German birds, not mine. Araucanas here can be bearded or cleanfaced. There are no Ameraucana. Our bearded tailed Araucanas look just like them! I read through the entire 300+ pages of the Ameraucana thread a few months ago, I'm sure I saw you on that thread many times.

Thanks for the welcome.

 

[VillageChicken]

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That is what I was thinking. I also like the beards too. This rooster is just too gorgeous not to use him. The pattern is just WOW.
I've actually got really excellent Araucana stock for my area (and a lot of Canada). It's very hard to find good stock up here. I am quite pleased with my little flock.

Is there a name for his pattern? maybe no one else thinks this but it looks egyptian to me lol.



https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/42359_2e_gorgeous_rumpless_male_small.jpg

He actually looks like a very dark Blue with recessive partridge or "duckwing" popping through. It also looks like he's carrying some mahogany genes as well. He's looks young still. Can't wait to see what his adult hackle and saddle feathers look like!

 

[cackleberrycoop]

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That is what I was thinking. I also like the beards too. This rooster is just too gorgeous not to use him. The pattern is just WOW.
I've actually got really excellent Araucana stock for my area (and a lot of Canada). It's very hard to find good stock up here. I am quite pleased with my little flock.

Is there a name for his pattern? maybe no one else thinks this but it looks egyptian to me lol.



https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/42359_2e_gorgeous_rumpless_male_small.jpg

Wow, what a striking pattern against his dark feathers. It will be fun to see what his babies look like.

 

[cackleberrycoop]

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Well, as I understand it, each feather of the blue variety here in the US is supposed to have a distinct dark blue lace around the edges, where as in a number of other countries (not sure which exactly) the standard calls for the blue feathers to be uniform color without any distinction around the edges and is called "self blue".... not to be confused with our American use of "self blue" for Lavender. I'm still waiting for my copy of the brand new Standard, which I pre-payed for on May 1st and was told it would be completed in two months...... So, I feel a bit reluctant to pass on what is second hand info, but the source is very reliable so I feel pretty good about it.

I also love the leakage of color through blue (if indeed it is a leakage, I'm not sure genetically speaking) - it's resulted in some of my absolute favorite chickens.

 

[puredelite]

On a recent return trip from La. I took a slight detour and visited Gary Ramey in SC to pick up four roo's. These are Spring hatched and all are double tufted and rumpless except for one that has a few stray tail feathers but has the nicest tufts. Have some pullets that I hatched from Gary's eggs and also pullets from another breeder. These roo's should give me a great start on my next Spring's breeding program. Plan to visit Gary again as I got there just before dark and really wanted to take a look at all of his chickens. Thank you Gary!

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