Araucana thread anyone?

[smoothmule]

Exoticduckluvr,
How cute! Love the variety of colors, especially the red/brown downed one. I have a pure white chick that feathered out white that had chipmunk down so I am assuming it's a recessive white and may produce white and colored chicks.
So, if those yellow chicks feather out white too, are they dominant white?

Cute chickies though! Maybe Jocelyn can help identify all of these colors

 

[cackleberrycoop]

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Please forgive my ignorance.... I've heard of the"'Collonocas" breed and the "Quetros" breed of Chile chicken, but the Quechua is a new one to me. Is this a more original pairing of the two breeds, or an altogether different breed? I had no idea a hen could live so long. Wow, what a testament to the hearty nature of that bird and I'd guess some pretty stellar love and care along the way as well. She must really be one special gal.

 

[exoticduckluvr]

Mule I honestly don't know

I found 2 more chicks this morning I hadn't expected lol
Look Mom both sides

2nd chick found

 

[cashdl]

I believe the Quechua is the bearded chicken from the andes that went into the development of the Ameraucana and the European Araucana. Where the Collonca and the Quetro did not have beards the Quechua did.

Lanae

 

[star2525]

Cackleberry,

If you go to Feathersite.com and go to chickens, then go to Rapanui and read you will find the other types of Araucanas listed there and more information on the birds. I have been looking for years for Quechuas here in the US and the closest I have come is a Rooster chick 4 months old, I now have that came from my Friend in Florida, she ran across a woman in Northern Florida that has raised Araucanas for at least 40 years, the birds are all rumpless and have Muffs similar to the Ameraucanas, the woman lost all of them recently to a predator attach, my friend was lucky enough to get a Rooster and Hen from her before the woman lost them, the Hen died on my friend and only laid a couple of eggs that didn't hatch, my friend bred the Rooster to some of her EE cross birds before the Rooster died and managed to get a couple to hatch, my friend said she thought the birds were Old age wise, so I have one of the Roos my friend sent me that's half and is rumpless with the Muff to the face, bigger bodied cockrel he is, he's odd colored because of what she used for breeding the Rooster to, the woman used the birds for years and always bred for bigger birds as she used them for eating as well as egglaying, my friend said the Hens were Black and the Roosters looked BBR colored, mine is very odd colored with Grey to his feathering and some other colors I'm just glad I got him to work with. My friend has Wheaten Marans and said the Rooster was broader across the chest than any of her Wheaten Marans were, and the pictures I saw of him he did look broad chested. This 4 month old cockrel is as big as my biggest Rooster already and I know has more filling out to do. Now I'm wondering what I should breed him to since I don't have Ameraucanas and I don't have EE's and would like to make the best of the Quechua 1/2 to see if I can produce more birds that look Quechua and lay those blue eggs the Rooster came from.

I'll have to try and take a picture of this bird and locate my friends picture of her Rooster that was his father.

Victoria

 

[cashdl]

The Quechua could be tailed or rumpless and sometimes had crests and often small beards and muffs. Not all Quechua had beards and muffs though.

The Quetro was tufted and tailed. - Seems people tend to forget that the modern araucana came from this bird and assume that if an araucana has a tail it is not a true araucana.

The Collonca was clean faced and rumpless - again this is a bird that the araucana is derived from.

The Quetro and Collonca was used to get the araucana after much refinement.

The Quechua and the Quetro was used to get the European Araucana and some believe the Ameraucana.

This is a simplistic breakdown and very general.

Lanae

 

[cashdl]

The person to ask about the South American Fowl is Kermit Blackwood. He posts here as Resolution. He may be able to tell you where to get as close to the original stock as possible.

Lanae

 

[star2525]

I've conversed with Kermit in the past about the other breeds of Araucanas and he is a wealth of information, it's been a while since I've touched base with him, I'm thinking if I can't find another bird to use that my best option might be to use the only Black clean faced Araucana Hen I have left with him, at least she's a solid color and rumpless with an extended tail folicle, I have two white rumpless tufted pullets also but don't think that would be good to use with him and don't know for sure what's behind the white, one of those has willow legs and the other has yellow legs, I'm thinking my Black Hen has Black legs, will have to check for sure.

Victoria

 

[cashdl]

I know less than little about the Quechua but the ones found in Mexico and the Andes were black I think. So your black hen would probably be best if you are trying to get as close to the original as possible. The Quechua weren't typically tufted either so while breeding to tufted won't hurt cause getting rid of tufts is easier than getting them if your bringing in an unknown color background that may be more of a hindrance.

Kermit would definately be the person to ask.


Lanae

 

[Medicine Man]

Something important to keep in mind is that even the bona fide Quechua are tainted with commercial production blood, it is what they are, just a bit less so than our hatchery EEs typically are. Although, the opposite may well be the case now. It's not like Quechua is a breed and thus there are any purebreds, they are simply a composite race made up of lots of different things but having developed several common characteristics due to (somewhat) isolated populations being what they are. They also did not originally lay blue eggs, that designer touch was added fairly recently. Feel free to call them "North American Quechua" or perhaps "New Quechua" all you want since a small group of people decided to steal the name Ameraucana from them and apply it to just a few colors (colors obtained by further crossing them and making bigger mutts out of them). The name Easter Egger, that's nothing but disrespect and I would only use that to describe a more recent mutt, like a New Quechua x Leghorn made in your backyard rather than an old strain of them that had had some Leghorn introduced way back when.

Has everybody interested seen Resolution's Quechua thread? https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=402512&p=1