Araucana thread anyone?

[cashdl]

I got several black chicks out of my BBR roo over two blue hens this summer. So it could be coming from your BBR. Of the black chicks all were totally black and 1 is a black with red shoulders.

I too love the challenge of what you can get. I think the araucana is worth preserving wether it is an old breed or a new color.

It is a totally unique chicken.

Lanae

 

[Illia]

. . . . I am offended. Seriously there are Ameraucana breeders who read this.

And, if you haven't heard of Cuckoo/Barred Araucanas until today, you haven't been reading enough, sorry.

But, back on the Ameraucana thing - In case you did not know, there is something called the Quechua. Ameraucanas were not a sudden new and trendy designer bird.

 

[Medicine Man]

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Yes, actually they were a new and trendy designer bird, from the Quechua (which is my main interest - don't ya remember my little New Quechua girl (hen that is)?). No needs to be offended, it's just that I was wrong about what the N.A. Araucana is. With an interest in preservation, it's not what I thought it was. No bigs.

 

[cashdl]

I don't think he ment to be offensive, so I didn't take offense because he was saying that araucanas are trendy also. It is too easy to take offense at the written word because you can't see the face or here the thoughts behind it.

The Quechua is only 1 of the breeds that make up the ameraucana, they are not the ameraucana.

I think he is looking for a heritage breed and one that is easier than the araucana. At least that is what I took from his posts.

I would hate for someone to start with araucana and then get frustrated and find out that they are not what they wanted down the line. It happens often enough.

They are a wonderful unique breed that is not for everyone. And this is where people come to find out if it is for them or not.

Lanae

 

[Illia]

Well, sure, neither Araucana nor Ameraucana are a preservation of the original. The closest is Wheaten Ameraucanas and BBR Araucanas. Otherwise, the rest have been modified, out-crossed, etc.

And, now I do remember your Quechua. (having an avatar helps my memory though

) You keep mentioning NA though - Where are you from again?

 

[Medicine Man]

I'm from here, I say NA because it's an important distinction. One would be disappointed to hatch some UK Araucanas unexpectedly.

 

[star2525]

Not neccessarily would it be dissappointing, some of those UK Araucanas are more closer to the Source, and some of them have a crest or tassle to the back of the head, so that type would be worth preserving as a separate type.

By NA Araucanas I think you're referring to Collonocas DeArtes, and I may not have spelled that correctly.

Victoria

 

[cashdl]

In Kermit Blackwoods article on feathersite he says

"Colloncas De Artes is the composite breed generated by the crossing of Quetro and Colloncas stocks. In North America, the Colloncas De Artes were refined into heirloom varieties of what we call Araucana. In the U.K., Quechua De Artes, the composite breed generated by the crossing of Quechua bantams with Quetros were exported to Europe during the Falklands dispute period. As a consequence, much of the western and northern European countries' tinted egg breeds are derived from Chilean Indian stock and as such are probably more correctly defined as Chilean Araucanas.

The so-called Americauna appears to be in large part a refined Quechua de Artes without tufts but carrying the brown breasted demes of the Quetro. "


I hope it was ok to copy and paste this. I only copied a small portion of the article, I think the entire article is very informative and of value to every araucana and ameraucana breeder.

Lanae

 

[puredelite]

Smoothmule, I think that is an excellent proposal that would be of benefit to anyone interested in breeding Araucana's. A collective documentation would help to answer questions of many breeders and would surely give birth to many new questions as well. I will have three different breeding groups set up consisting of bi-lateral tufted roos and 3-4 cleanfaced hens in each pen. Have yet to decide the color match-ups tho. One possibility I am thinking of is a splash roo w/ solid black hens. What would you expect of the resulting colors produced? I realize there are limited colors that are acceptable by the standard so would like to work along those lines too. I am just getting started with BCM's and have bloodlines from two different breeders. Notice with this breed there seems to be some color variation mainly in the amount of copper feathering in the neck area. My point here is that there seems to be an ongoing effort and need to work on the colors to breed up to the standard. Count me in on your study of Araucana's.

 

[Medicine Man]

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All offsprung would be blue.