I started with a Hovabator and still have it and still use it. I have a turner and a fan. the temperature can be hard to get right but once you do, just keep it there. If the incubator gets too hot you can have problems. I had someone messing with the temperature while it was set in a nursing home and someone kept turning it up. that was the only time I had messed up chicks. I don't think you can go wrong with a Hovabator. If you get a used one, you need to look into how to clean it well.