Are you kidding me?

I believe that kid has a shot. What is appalling is when parents of babies born with things such as anencephaly fight tooth and nail to keep their kid alive. An anencephalic baby has no chance of ever becoming conscious, they will be a vegetable for 'life'. I use the word 'life' because I don't think an permanently unconscious being is ever alive.
 
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I didn't think you even could Fight Anencephaly, I thought you got the time you got, and that was it, 2 days max?
 
And, well not like there is any bias against anything in the way that story is reported either........
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Could they be any more obvious??

Where is the facebook campaign for the people on medicaid that got tossed off the transplant lists??

How about the thousands of people who are "denied coverage" here. Seriously?

I feel for this kid's family, but c'mon.
 
To be fair I'd say that there are some parents who have no idea that their baby will be born with such a deformity and the emotional swing of going from tremendous excitement and excitement at the impending birth to a stark realization that something is very wrong is too much to handle and they refuse to accept the inevitable. My dad had some major post surgery complications and when he finally did achieve some level consciousness I knew immediately that it would end badly. My mom refused to accept that until it finally sunk in a few months later. I can't begrudge anyone hoping against hope because once we lose hope we lose it all.
 
Oh that is so scary. I am glad I don't live there. When my youngest was born he had to be in an incubator and on a feeding tube for the first three days. It was scary enough with out this kind of terror added on. My prayers go out to this family.
 
Ugh video. I can't see it. Can anyone tell me what disease this boy has? A completely uncurable one? That's what I got off the comments.

Government being part of healthcare isn't the problem, I don't think. Something like this is quite possibly a pebble in the water of the real issue of American healthcare becoming government-based. Maybe I'm biased having had both, but I can't give up my socialized healthcare for anything - even this.

The number of times I nearly died and my bill was only $250 (which is all I have to pay for ANY hospital stay of ANY length with ANY tests taken during that period)...the lack of money was much more likely to kill me than government mandated healthcare. However, when I was *actually* dying, they really couldn't DO much. I was in an out of consciousness and they weren't about to put me on anything if I went into a coma - it would've been absolutely pointless. If I slipped into coma, I was gone and just going to be a drain on the fiscal responsibility of the system. Sometimes a person is just gone.

I did manage to read the title "denies chance at miracle"... so clearly him living IS a miracle, they just want the chance to have one. While a parent would want the chance and the best for their child - extending life needlessly is such pain and torment on all systems (the person, the hopeful parents, the government, the hospital) that it's just not worth it.

But again, I couldn't watch the 'article'. A link to a readable article would be beneficial.
 
They haven't diagnosed him with anything. The family says he was treated in the US for a similar episode with medications and therapy and went home after 20 days 'normal' but the hospital there isn't treating him with anything or doing testing.


It's not that they are asking to have him on life support for 80 years, though, they said that they asked earlier to take him home so that he could die at home surrounded by family and loved ones and the hospital refused to let them do that, too. I simply can't understand not honoring that wish, I can't. They lost another child roughly 8 years ago from a 'similar' thing (so maybe something heriditary?) they said and that child was allowed to be at home to die with family.
 
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Here's a story from some Canadian site. The child has some neurological issues is all the article says. I think in skimming some other articles that he may be in the process of being transferred to a hospital in Michigan, but I'm not sure- I was reading quickly. I really, really hate that his parents cannot take him home. It sounds to me that they know he can't be saved.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011/02/18/17322376.html


Baby ordered off life-support


LONDON, Ont. - Moe Maraachli keeps the snapshots of his dying baby boy in an envelope in his jacket pocket.

He pulls out the photos of the son he's about to lose, trying to understand how a hospital, an Ontario health-related board assigned to judge consent issues, and a London, Ont., court could say he and his wife can't take their baby, Joseph, home to Windsor, Ont., to die.

"I do my best for my baby. I do my best," he said Thursday outside the London courthouse, tears in his eyes.

"This is killing, this is criminal ... I'm sure this is murder."

This Monday, on Family Day in Ontario, Joseph Maraachli, who's in a vegetative state from a neurodegenerative disease, will die after his breathing tube is removed from his tiny body at a London hospital, ending an ethical and legal dilemma that tried to balance unwanted suffering with the needs of a child and his family.

"I lose my baby," Maraachli, 37, who came to Canada from Lebanon 11 years ago, said. "They take him from me.


"I don't lose my baby like God take him. They take him. They want to take him."

"It was basically our family's word versus the medical system's world," said Joseph's aunt, Samar Nader, who's sure she saw Joseph respond to her this week when she touched his head.

"I think in medicine, they're just looking at the world from a black and white point of view.

"The family understands the child and for us to witness his death on Monday ... I don't know."

An emotional Superior Court Justice Helen Rady, who called it "heartbreaking" and "such a sad and difficult case," decided Thursday not to allow the family's appeal of a decision last month by Ontario's Consent and Capacity Board to have the child's breathing tube removed and put in place a do-not-resuscitate order and palliative care.

The baby's father and mother, Sana Nader, 35, wanted the same treatment for Joseph as was given to their daughter before she died, eight years ago at 18 months -- give Joseph a tracheotomy and ventilation, and allow them to take him home to die what would be a peaceful death.

But Joseph's doctors say while a tracheotomy -- an incision is made in a patient's airway, to help breathing -- may prolong the baby's life, it's futile in this case and would likely cause much discomfort. It would certainly also increase the risk of infection and pneumonia, they argue.

"The medical officials would not want this little boy to suffer," Rady said.

When born in January 2010, Joseph, now 13 months, was a beautiful, normal baby.

But five months later he started having seizures like his sister. By June, he couldn't swallow.

In October, he stopped breathing while travelling with his parents. He was taken to an Ingersoll, Ont., hospital, then rushed to the London Health Sciences Centre's pediatric critical care unit where he's been ever since.

His father has stayed in London, Ont., to be with his son.

His mother is in London, Ont., every weekend and returns to Windsor, Ont., to look after the couple's other son, Ali.

Joseph's on a ventilator and fed through a tube. He's in what the doctors call "a persistent vegetative state." The doctors say he's blind and deaf. He's missing all five brain stem reflexes considered necessary for life -- gag, cough, eye movement, pupil and cornea responses. His brain deterioration is irreversible.

A team of doctors, including a world-renowned pediatric expert from Toronto's Hospital for Sick Children, has examined Joseph and agrees he's dying of the same progressive neurodegenerative disease that claimed his sister.

Joseph's doctor told the adjudication board that doctors "reluctantly" gave the couple's daughter a tracheotomy. Since then, doctors have learned "substantially" more about the procedure and determined it isn't right for Joseph.

The board agreed with Joseph's attending doctor that the baby has "no hope or chance of ever recovering."

"While we feel a great deal of empathy for the parents, we held that their view was not in any way realistic," the board said, adding Joseph's parents "were blinded by their obvious love" for their child.

His parents fear Joseph will choke to death once the tube is removed. They say he responds to their touch and wanted the board to see him in hospital before deciding.

Rady said it's unclear what the board would have seen had its members agreed. And she noted that while Joseph's head and body have grown, it doesn't mean the medical assessments are wrong.

The case digs deeply into the delicate balance of life vs. suffering.

Ethicist Margaret Somerville of McGill University's Centre for Medicine, Ethics and Law said the case is "a judgment where the parents are giving priority to the prolongation of life and the doctor is giving priority to the quality of that life."

"I'm sure there's no doubt in this case that this child has a very poor quality of life, but we do know that health-care professionals judge quality of life much lower than people themselves do."

Somerville said such quality-of-life decisions are delicate and often at odds. What needs to be examined is why the family doesn't agree with the decision and if their reasons are acceptable, she said.

The board had ordered Joseph's breathing tube be removed Friday, but Rady said that wasn't sensitive to the family's need.

Instead, she ordered they comply by Monday -- a statutory holiday in Ontario, to celebrate family -- "to afford the whole family adequate time to say their good-byes."

Rady's voice broke when she addressed the family. "I hope that in time you'll find peace," she said.

Joseph's father wasn't satisfied. "It's not help," he said later.

His lawyer, Geoff Snow, said he understands Rady's decision but added, "the loss of a child in any circumstances is tragic and it's unfortunate that there's not more that could have been done."

Lawyer Julie Zamprogna Balles, who acted for the doctor, said Rady's decision was "well-reasoned and compassionate."

While the case had "very sad and unfortunate circumstances," everyone involved, she said, have "focused on little Joseph's best interests."

But a grieving Moe Maraachli said there's "no humanity" in Canada. He expressed a desire to die himself.

"I stay with him until the last moments and hopefully I go with him," he said.
 
I actually went to more than one news source, including several Canadian sources. Fox News is making the parents request into something it is not.

This family is not asking for the child to live; merely to have him die at home. Dieing at home means surgery to get him there. The kid can't breathe on his own. The family is asking for a trach to be done so they can take him home to die. They are not asking for some miracle to make him live. If they take the breathing tube out the child dies.

I don't know what the hospital's or doctor's reasoning is, but my guess is that they feel that this is unneccesary surgery on a dieing child.
 
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I actually went to more than one news source, including several Canadian sources. Fox News is making the parents request in to something it is not.

This family is not asking for the child to live; merely to have him die at home. Dieing at home means surgery to get him there. The kid can't breathe on his own. The family is asking for a trach to be done so they can take him home to die. They are not asking for some miracle to make him live. If they take the breathing tube out the child dies.

I don't know what the hospital's or doctor's reasoning is, but my guess is that they feel that this is unneccesary surgery on a dieing child.

Ooooh totally different story than what I had in mind. That's a shame.
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